Smoke Em

is it possible to install pacesetter long tubes in a garage with out a lift.

can you give me any tips, i read that they are a PITA to do

also what is a good y pipe, should i just go with the pacesetter y pipe as well?

95 camaro LT1

chavez885

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Yep sure can, i'll find you some links to read through. Pacesetters y-pipe works fine!
Basically the hard part is you remove your stock crap, takes a bit. Then you're gonna have to jack the car up very high to get enough clearance for the headers, thats where most go wrong and try to hammer them in from the top or start banging the frame. If the car is high enough, they'll slide right in.

http://www.lt1howto.com/articles/flpinstall.htm
http://www.go-fast.org/z28/headers.html

Smoke Em

is there anything i can do to keep the cats, so it will pass inspection?? i was thinking about doing an exhaust cut out but idk if it will help with inspection if i get the wrong place

chavez885

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Is it visual only? If so yes, if its a sniffer test, you're f'd.

Smoke Em

sniffer test!!

what should i do about the egr and air,
if i remove them will they throw codes, and what about the o2s,

do the pacesetters have locations for the o2s??

Badazz 97 TA

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you will fail both visual and sniffer if you go with longtubes. If its just the sniffer you can put a cat in the y-pipe and then keep the egr and AIR. since pacesetters do come in both emission style and "race" style. You just buy some extensions for your o2's. they have bungs welded from the factory.


theres millions of threads on this subject. do a search

Smoke Em

i am looking to go with these LTs

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PSM-70-2239/

and this Y,

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PSM-82-1161/

how can i tell if i can keep the egr and air??
also how would i put the cat in, cut the y pipe??

jaysz2893

I dunno about RI, but i passed in DE with cats placed in my Pacesetter Y and i have no air/egr. You will need to have the computer tuned so the egr/air is turned off and wont set a code.

Smoke Em

did you have to cut the ORY to fit the cat or how did you get the cat to work?

jaysz2893

those you linked are the "race" headers. THey have no fittings for Air/EGR. I have the same ones, but coated. BTW The Painted ones rust FAST.
I cut about 12 inches out of the Y where it would slip on to the header. I got high flow cats that fit in the place of the pipe. I wil look through my records and see if i can find a part # for the cats. I take them out after inspection. I have 2 years between inspections..

Smoke Em

do the ones i posted have places for the o2s?? so you have 2 cats before the headers meet together at the y, instead of 1?

chavez885

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Those are race version and that's an off road y-pipe.

You'll want these http://www.byunspeed.com/product_inf...92e7db1a3aa38d

Those have air/egr, as far as the y-pipe you can do what the guy above says and get a cat welded in.

You might give young a call (888-592-6661) and see what he can hook up for you, he'll beat match/beat summit prices and is knowledgeable about what you'll need.

Badazz 97 TA

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yes, pretty much any name brand headers will come with the o2 bungs already welded on. so no worries there.


i would get the emission style headers just in case. then cut the ypipe and just fit in a converter like the one guy did

jaysz2893

here are my cats:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-94109/
I slipped one on right behind the pass header andthe other one is in the diagonal section that goes under the drivers floor. I needed to heat wrap my brake lines too. I didnt weld them in cause i take them out. I used clamps:
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/30733/10002/-1

and to answer your original question it can be done on Jack Stands.. I Did it.. but will NEVER do it again. Taking out the starter on the pass side and taking off the oil filter and steering shaft on the drivers side helped alot. Also use locking bolts and some anti seize. And finally get good gaskets. I used Fel Pros. well this Kit..
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CMB-05-0128/

By all means though call around, summit is high and not a sponsor of the site.

EDIT, it was more like 10 inches out of the pipes to fit the 13 inch cats.