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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Ok can anyone tell me if my goal of 500 hp with sock heads worked and cams full bolt ons is realistic ?? like it is possible at the wheels ? Just curious
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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I assume you are refering to a stock bottom end or stock cubed motor. Need more info. A stock bottom end will be short lived at that power level and with stock cubes it wont be very practible for a street machine. Its definitly feasable with a 396 combination with a solid cam and stock castings if the heads are fixed right. The stock castings make a hard to beat set of heads especially for the stock cubed LT1s when fixed right. If its a street/strip car then it shouldnt take 500 RWHP to satisfy your power needs. Not trying to tell you your goal is out of reach, but you did title this thread "Realistic".
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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500 hp or 500 hp at the wheels????? Two VERY different numbers...
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Forgot to add 383 with forged bottom end 11.5:1 comp and cam and heads and yes 450-500 at the wheels. Want to be a good low 11 sec car full weight of 3800 pounds with stereo
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Forgot to add 383 with forged bottom end 11.5:1 comp and cam and heads and yes 450-500 at the wheels. Want to be a good low 11 sec car full weight of 3800 pounds with stereo
Six speed or automatic?

450 to the wheels through and auto is "doable" with stock casting heads, but its hard. 500 to the wheels, VERY hard with any head through an automatic.

Six speed makes it easier to make the power on the dyno, but harder to get down the track.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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auto which will be beefed up later
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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i also have 373 gears
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Fastfatboy if you dont mind me asking about how much did it cost for your motor? I prolly will only have about 3000 to work with but i get 40-60 discount on parts through summit think bout the cc503 or XFI 466 or cc502 which would yield the best horsepower? i do want it more on the low and mid but some more top end too
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28reggie
auto which will be beefed up later
500rwh w/ a A4...Not happening. Built With nitrous yes.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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500rwh w/ a A4...Not happening. Built With nitrous yes.
I agree.

Stock heads wont get you 500rwhp through a stalled A4 no matter how many cubes or which cam you use.
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With a nasty cam i think it could be done, but those heads will need serious work.

Can you hook it up with that discount????????? Ill be your best friend!!!!!!
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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yea maybe give me some part numbers and i can take them to school and let you know.
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With a nasty cam i think it could be done, but those heads will need serious work.

Can you hook it up with that discount????????? Ill be your best friend!!!!!!
If he puts out 500rwh through a stalled A4 naturally aspirated I will ship my car free of charge to him
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Originally Posted by Z28reggie
Fastfatboy if you dont mind me asking about how much did it cost for your motor? I prolly will only have about 3000 to work with but i get 40-60 discount on parts through summit think bout the cc503 or XFI 466 or cc502 which would yield the best horsepower? i do want it more on the low and mid but some more top end too

Not trying to be a dick, but 3000 bux aint gonna buy you the top end of the engine you need to make the power you want. By this I mean heads(complete), intake, throttlebody.

You wanna make 500 to the wheels or even 450 to the wheels through an auto be prepared to spend 10 grand before its all said and done.
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BM...n/?prefilter=1

It would have to be a RACE CAR. Larry makes 450 with a mild HR cam
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Just for example I just recently built my stalled A4 and it ran me in the ball park of 4-5 grand...complete with all the little go together items. I'm putting down about 405rwh with a smaller streetable camshaft and stock AI 200CC heads.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Ok well can someone tell me the best cam to go with I am going to start looking in classifieds too maybe i will get lucky.
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Originally Posted by Z28reggie
Ok well can someone tell me the best cam to go with I am going to start looking in classifieds too maybe i will get lucky.
Buy new. Call up AI and talk to Ron or Lloyd Elliott at Elliott's Portworks and explain to them what goals you have in mind for the car and they will point you in the right direction.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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How far does one think i can make it on a rebuild for 450-500wrhp on 3000 maybe a lil more hat with discounts of 40-60 depending on item.
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
With a nasty cam i think it could be done, but those heads will need serious work.

Can you hook it up with that discount????????? Ill be your best friend!!!!!!
500rwhp through an A4 on ported stockers and stock cubes??? I don't see it happening...

Even 400 through a stalled auto with stock cubes takes a lot of planning!!!
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