Been doing some thinking. Engine swap guys come on in.
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Been doing some thinking. Engine swap guys come on in. So I was seriously talking about what direction I want to take the Z with an LS1 Guru friend of mine. I have been looking at one of the LE head and cam packages, and of course that would involve refreshing my motor, with 225K+ on the clock, and a new converter done right. If I went that direction my trans probably wouldn't last long, and considering the total cost of all of that we then considered an LSX and Trans swap.
Realistically, a swap would be cheaper and more reliable and of course respond better to mods. I'm really leaning towards this idea.
Anyone with experience on this subject?
Realistically, a swap would be cheaper and more reliable and of course respond better to mods. I'm really leaning towards this idea.
Anyone with experience on this subject?
I think you may be asking the wrong bunch......from what I gather most of the guys here are the diehard LTx crowd.....my personal opinion is go for it, if that's what you want. I was having the same discussion not too long ago, but if I go that route it'll be LS9......nothing like factory HP!!!!
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I can not see any downside to this, not only cheaper ,but probably the best way to spend your money in the long run. IMHO a great swap. Just get as complete an engine & ecu as you can.
Dub
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I can not see any downside to this, not only cheaper ,but probably the best way to spend your money in the long run. IMHO a great swap. Just get as complete an engine & ecu as you can.
Dub
When In Doubt Do Without
There's a lot of things you'll need to change to get a LS engine into a LT1 car. K-Frame, fuel system, exhaust system, PCM and harnesses, instrument cluster integration, the list goes on.
It'b be cheaper and way easier to find a LS1 car.
It'b be cheaper and way easier to find a LS1 car.
ls kmember is not necessary, there are various ways to mount a ls in a lt car.
harness is subjective. if u can do ur own wiring,costs will be lower, although u can get a plug and play harness to reuse stock gage cluster. costs more.
a 6.0 based motor will be ur best value. its possible for 550-600bhp with
worked oe heads and intake and less than 400ci
harness is subjective. if u can do ur own wiring,costs will be lower, although u can get a plug and play harness to reuse stock gage cluster. costs more.
a 6.0 based motor will be ur best value. its possible for 550-600bhp with
worked oe heads and intake and less than 400ci
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I did my swap last spring and don't regret it for a second. I gained 8 miles per gallon fuel mileage. I put a TR224 cam in it when I put it in along with some Pacesetter LT headers, modded my LT1 Pacesetter y-pipe to work, same converter/trans. The car runs the same ET as when I had LE2 head/cam on my stock bottom end LT1. Check out the swap link in my sig for all the details.
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Verdad Gallardo ls kmember is not necessary, there are various ways to mount a ls in a lt car.
harness is subjective. if u can do ur own wiring,costs will be lower, although u can get a plug and play harness to reuse stock gage cluster. costs more.
a 6.0 based motor will be ur best value. its possible for 550-600bhp with
worked oe heads and intake and less than 400ci
harness is subjective. if u can do ur own wiring,costs will be lower, although u can get a plug and play harness to reuse stock gage cluster. costs more.
a 6.0 based motor will be ur best value. its possible for 550-600bhp with
worked oe heads and intake and less than 400ci
not to hijack but what is needed for a swap? I already want a umi rr front k member so i would just get it for an ls1. I know i would need a motor and ecu and i would get all of that out of a newer firbid/camaro. But how would i go about going from obd1 to obd2?
Click on the link in my sig. Should have all the details.
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if you swap to an ls motor then you are likely dealing with used parts with varying degrees of wear so you will want most if not all rebuilt anyway. when all is said and done it would likely cost less to build with what you have than source and replace what you need for a swap. if you really want it then do it. my black stripper formula has about 200lbs of weight reduction and another 70 would be nice if i go with the ls motor but right now its just not practical for me cost wise.
I'd do it. An L92 headed 408 / 414 / 427 can do work and easily put down numbers and times its hard for even a well built LT1 stroker to attain.
I'm pretty sentimental to my old LT1 and will prob never swap this car bec I like keeping it original, but I will own a 4th gen lsx car eventually.
I'm pretty sentimental to my old LT1 and will prob never swap this car bec I like keeping it original, but I will own a 4th gen lsx car eventually.
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if you swap to an ls motor then you are likely dealing with used parts with varying degrees of wear so you will want most if not all rebuilt anyway. when all is said and done it would likely cost less to build with what you have than source and replace what you need for a swap. if you really want it then do it. my black stripper formula has about 200lbs of weight reduction and another 70 would be nice if i go with the ls motor but right now its just not practical for me cost wise.
If I do the swap I'll be going with something newer than 02, preferably from a wrecked car to keep costs down. A GTO LS2 would be plain awesome. I can always sell the old drivetrain to recoup some costs anyways.
As much as I love my LT1, the truth is it's outdated and there's better technology, hence the reason we have the LSX series. It's just so much easier to make the power I want more affordably that way.
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a typical swap with a good motor, harness, accesories, transmission ect will easily run in the $3000+ range and all you will have is a stock powertrain and less money to build it. like i said if you really want it then do it just dont get it in your head that it will save you any money or even cost the same. the deals are out there so choose wisely
All depends on how fast you really want to go, also remember if you do the swap then kill a motor(they are known for spinning rod bearings), it will cost you a lot more to get a new motor to make the car run again.
That being said, I went from lt1/nitrous to 5.3/turbo in my rx7, only downside is I now get worse gas mileage and have to run e85 vs running pump gas before. Oh and traction is gone, but it's only 3 tenths quicker than the lt1 on the hurt motor.
That being said, I went from lt1/nitrous to 5.3/turbo in my rx7, only downside is I now get worse gas mileage and have to run e85 vs running pump gas before. Oh and traction is gone, but it's only 3 tenths quicker than the lt1 on the hurt motor.
