pacesetter headers = bad craftsmanship
pacesetter headers = bad craftsmanship alright got my headers in today..and wow,im so happy i didnt get coated headers..these are some of the most crappy headers ive seen to start here my problems with them
1. Paint was not fully dry and still is tacky to the touch
2. There is spots missing paint
3. On my pass side there is 2 tubes that they didnt grind smooth on the joints and just painted over
4. My colloctors are not true 3" collectors..my bullet mufflers can almost slide over them
5. The first 1" of the pipe to the flange is smaller then my reg tubes and what the header flange size is..so inside the header flange is a stepped section to make the connect and is just boogerd up and will need grinding to match my flanges
1. Paint was not fully dry and still is tacky to the touch
2. There is spots missing paint
3. On my pass side there is 2 tubes that they didnt grind smooth on the joints and just painted over
4. My colloctors are not true 3" collectors..my bullet mufflers can almost slide over them
5. The first 1" of the pipe to the flange is smaller then my reg tubes and what the header flange size is..so inside the header flange is a stepped section to make the connect and is just boogerd up and will need grinding to match my flanges
alright got my headers in today..and wow,im so happy i didnt get coated headers..these are some of the most crappy headers ive seen to start here my problems with them
1. Paint was not fully dry and still is tacky to the touch
2. There is spots missing paint
3. On my pass side there is 2 tubes that they didnt grind smooth on the joints and just painted over
4. My colloctors are not true 3" collectors..my bullet mufflers can almost slide over them
5. The first 1" of the pipe to the flange is smaller then my reg tubes and what the header flange size is..so inside the header flange is a stepped section to make the connect and is just boogerd up and will need grinding to match my flanges
1. Paint was not fully dry and still is tacky to the touch
2. There is spots missing paint
3. On my pass side there is 2 tubes that they didnt grind smooth on the joints and just painted over
4. My colloctors are not true 3" collectors..my bullet mufflers can almost slide over them
5. The first 1" of the pipe to the flange is smaller then my reg tubes and what the header flange size is..so inside the header flange is a stepped section to make the connect and is just boogerd up and will need grinding to match my flanges
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your suppose to be able to slide your piping/muffler onto the collector as its a "slip fit" collector. i have pacesetters and compared to my friends hookers they are way better. thinker metal, better welds, better fit up.
i got them from speed-eng.com who also forgot my plugs..but the craftsmanship of these just shocked me..my headmans that i had on my last 4th gen didnt look like this..im not stressing these that bad seeing ill be only using them for a couple months before i swap to my race engine..just you figure you pay 300$ for a set of headers they wouldnt look like bobby jo at the local muffler shop slapped them together.
figure i would give people a heads up of what they might get.seeing i read good reviews on here about them and then got ****..the header flange is setup for a 1" 3/4s and they used what looks is a inch of 1" 5/8s to connect the flange to the 1" 3/4s tubes.
figure i would give people a heads up of what they might get.seeing i read good reviews on here about them and then got ****..the header flange is setup for a 1" 3/4s and they used what looks is a inch of 1" 5/8s to connect the flange to the 1" 3/4s tubes.
I had plenty of issues with my pacesetters on my old lt1. The flange on the drivers side header was warped ever so slightly, and the collector + y-pipe never lined up easily. They also leaked like a siv. After ghetto rigging it to not leak and to finally mate up, I was happy with them. Next time I look into getting some longtubes, I'll be going with a different brand.
there no sliding my 3" bullets on them which are a true 3" deal..i have 3" 2 bolt clamping bands i was going to use to connect the headers to the mufflers but now i fear the .15 diffrence in size might not put them on tight enough as i want so they dont end up sliding off if i bottom out.
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Verdad Gallardo any of you guys headers not have the welds grinded down on the pass side..mine is right after the 90 on the first pipe..probley like 5" of tube down from the flange and then theres another one mid legth done on the #6 tube..just completly not grinded down and not nice welds..the inside of the flange ill def have to grind down seeing its a restriction
I dont remember having any of those issues. Seems like you just got a bad set. My collectors and y-pipe fit fine.
Plus, you do realize the black paint that comes sprayed on them will burn off once the engine runs for a bit. All that paint is used for is to keep them from rusting while sitting on the shelf.
Plus, you do realize the black paint that comes sprayed on them will burn off once the engine runs for a bit. All that paint is used for is to keep them from rusting while sitting on the shelf.
alright got my headers in today..and wow,im so happy i didnt get coated headers..these are some of the most crappy headers ive seen to start here my problems with them
1. Paint was not fully dry and still is tacky to the touch
2. There is spots missing paint
3. On my pass side there is 2 tubes that they didnt grind smooth on the joints and just painted over
4. My colloctors are not true 3" collectors..my bullet mufflers can almost slide over them
5. The first 1" of the pipe to the flange is smaller then my reg tubes and what the header flange size is..so inside the header flange is a stepped section to make the connect and is just boogerd up and will need grinding to match my flanges
1. Paint was not fully dry and still is tacky to the touch
2. There is spots missing paint
3. On my pass side there is 2 tubes that they didnt grind smooth on the joints and just painted over
4. My colloctors are not true 3" collectors..my bullet mufflers can almost slide over them
5. The first 1" of the pipe to the flange is smaller then my reg tubes and what the header flange size is..so inside the header flange is a stepped section to make the connect and is just boogerd up and will need grinding to match my flanges
2. same as above
3. again sub $400 headers
4. Are you basing on inside diameter or outside diameter?
I had plenty of issues with my pacesetters on my old lt1. The flange on the drivers side header was warped ever so slightly, and the collector + y-pipe never lined up easily. They also leaked like a siv. After ghetto rigging it to not leak and to finally mate up, I was happy with them. Next time I look into getting some longtubes, I'll be going with a different brand.
You can slightly adjust the headers to get the ypipe to meet up easier. Don't tighten any bolts up until everythings together and it'll make life much easier.
there no sliding my 3" bullets on them which are a true 3" deal..i have 3" 2 bolt clamping bands i was going to use to connect the headers to the mufflers but now i fear the .15 diffrence in size might not put them on tight enough as i want so they dont end up sliding off if i bottom out.
yes i know the paint will burn off in do time..**** even my coated ones i had from before started to flake off...an yes they are crap..cheap well there in the same price range as headman or hookers...i wasnt going to spend 1k on headers seeing im about to do a lsx for 275 radial action an it will be done in some months..then ill spend 1k on kooks or lemons
I love my pacesetter no problems here. but they are cheap and affordable they arnt going to be perfect. I blasted mine painted them with header paint and got better gaskets. never had a prob.
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I have pacesetters on my LT1 and my LS1(both coated). The LT1 set was decent for the money and everything went together well. The longtubes on my LS1 are great! They looked just as good as my buddys LG's he used on his Z06, not to mention they performed well on the dyno! I did purchase better gaskets for both. I think I would return them if you can
my mufflers are dynomax..only ones i run and they are a true 3" deal..the inside is a 3" deal..if i order a collector from jegs oe summit and it says 3" its 3 " like the bullets..these said 3" collectors and nothing about being not a true 3" deal so a 3" pipe can fit on them which that cant even happen with mine..lol i would return them but thats a month deal of fighting and dealing with **** when my other engine ill have done around may..so you see ill only have them for really march an april on the car..lol
ill post pics tomarrow of them
ill post pics tomarrow of them
I have non coated pacesetter longtubes and 3"ory. I did get felpro header gaskets, and there were runs in the paint on the maiting surface, but other than they theyr awsome, and sound crazy through my 3" dumped moroso spiral flow.
i dont understand you must have got a bad set? i've bought 3 sets. 2 coated and 1 painted. yes the paint comes off nearly as soon as you crank it. but my 2 pair of coated ones do not show any signs of coating coming off. my welds are good, also no fitting problems and i am particular. sorry 4 you but i have had good luck with mine.
