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Feb 3, 2010 | 08:55 PM

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I'm not going to argue much further, but if you want to do a cam swap with stock valvetrain parts, the only cam you're going to be putting back in is the stock one. You want to do a cam swap along with your 383 bottom end build, and I'm telling you how to do it right.

Feb 3, 2010 | 10:10 PM

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Just so i am up to speed... You want to do a 383 bottom end with stock heads, aftermarket cam, and stock valvetrain? Im no rocket scientist but it sounds like a failboat to me..

Feb 4, 2010 | 09:36 AM

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Well im not arguing. So your stating that u cant do a cam with out a new valve train?

Feb 4, 2010 | 09:57 AM

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Well im not arguing. So your stating that u cant do a cam with out a new valve train?

If you would have read my posts, yes. At the bare minimum you'll need lifters, springs, retainers, locks, timing set, and a new PCM tune.

Feb 4, 2010 | 10:39 AM

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Might as well get a new opti too. I know I would if I went threw the mess of a rb
bigger cam with stock valve train= no no

Feb 9, 2010 | 11:16 AM

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so.. Should i start with heads?? Instead of going this way? What way should i go??

Feb 9, 2010 | 12:17 PM

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so.. Should i start with heads?? Instead of going this way? What way should i go??

Do you need to do a rebuild? How is your stock bottom end holding up now? Compression good? Oil psi good?

Feb 9, 2010 | 03:38 PM

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what he is trying to tell you is your springs are only good enough for the stock cam if you go bigger and not change anything this is the process you MAY see:
springs break,rocker breaks value may fall in piston, piston shoots threw head and engine dead......= starting from square one all over again.

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Feb 11, 2010 | 09:13 AM

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so how should i go about doing this?? Should i use stock heads and just get new springs, cam, lifters, etc.??

Feb 11, 2010 | 12:36 PM

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so.. Should i start with heads?? Instead of going this way? What way should i go??

Set some goals and a budget for the car and stick to them. Where do you want to be ? If all you want is a bit more power then a h/c would be the way to go.

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Main goal is to just rebuild it so it ain't got that many miles on her...

So you want to rebuild is what is looks like and you also mentioned a steady power increase.

Build a 383 then put a decent top end on it as money allows. You wont waste money this way. Whats optimal for 350 cubic inches is not optional for 383 cu. Putting money into your current top end right now does make the car "newer" or with" less miles on it" as your goals indicate. Your can also spruce up your top end for very little money at the same time.

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Feb 23, 2010 | 10:54 AM

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Alright after doing a little more research.. I've decided that i will be doing the h/c swap.. I guess later i will rebuild since the short block is still good. So I'm looking at cam and heads. Could i get the stock heads worked on then get new lifters, springs, rockers, valves, etc?? or would it be best to get new heads? I know the higher the price the better the product in certain circumstances..

Feb 23, 2010 | 10:59 AM

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Ported stock castings with the right cam and bolt-ons will easily deliver over 400whp and more. Look at www.advancedinduction.com or LE for some ideas.

Feb 24, 2010 | 07:05 PM

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So would i buy one of those packages or could i get each and every component separate? And what do you mean but the right cam...

Feb 24, 2010 | 07:07 PM

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But would the stock head with upgraded valve train parts be able to hold up to a 383 stroker later on in the motors life? Say in a year or two

Feb 24, 2010 | 07:09 PM

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So would i buy one of those packages or could i get each and every component separate? And what do you mean but the right cam...

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But would the stock head with upgraded valve train parts be able to hold up to a 383 stroker later on in the motors life? Say in a year or two

"The right cam" means you use a cam profile designed with your specific goals, a cam that compliments the rest of your modifications - not just a random off-the-shelf cam.

Feb 24, 2010 | 07:14 PM

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So would the upgraded heads hold up to the 383 if and when i get around to that and would i have to get a diffrent cam when i bore and stroke it out

Feb 24, 2010 | 07:20 PM

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So would the upgraded heads hold up to the 383 if and when i get around to that and would i have to get a diffrent cam when i bore and stroke it out

The heads don't care what displacement they sit on.

Feb 25, 2010 | 12:09 AM

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Joe's car is a 383 w/ a 200cc cnc'd h/c/ported intake on it and a cam setup for his goals and specs. His #'s and times speak for themselves.

I would say if the car is your DD, and you are looking at AI, just do their 226/234 cam with their 200cc cnc'd lt1 heads and their ported intake package. Save up! Because either option you want to do will be above your $2000 budget.

Then when you get the top end built, you are going to need to compliment the cam with a 3200-3600 stall (I use a Yank SS3600 and love it) and some GM 3.73 gears (my Motive gears are loud as hell!)

Feb 25, 2010 | 10:06 AM

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Then when you get the top end built, you are going to need to compliment the cam with a 3200-3600 stall (I use a Yank SS3600 and love it) and some GM 3.73 gears (my Motive gears are loud as hell!)

Your gears being loud has nothing to do with the fact that they are Motive. They are not set up right.

Feb 25, 2010 | 02:26 PM

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Your gears being loud has nothing to do with the fact that they are Motive. They are not set up right.

Yeah I figured.. I had a guy who has set them up on many cars do them so I wonder why this car has been a problem for him. Even bought the Ratech Deluxe install kit and everything. Mine are very loud from 40-55mph

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