fastfox

I'm running the ls1 style intake and seen a big differnt.

AChotrod

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So youve dyno tested or track tested? Or your *** told you it was faster?

31camaro

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^^^ x2

Camaro350z2897

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So in this post, (roughly the same with every single other post) tons of stuff is based solely on opinion most times. However there seem to be a few track results in here which everyone ignores when someone gets the seat of the pants feel opinion.

stock < any CAI
other CAI's < K&N/Lingenfelter
CAI's < LS1 lid/ WS6 Box

LS1 lid WS6 airbox
1. Are about equal to each other in performance.
2. WS6 cost more and harder for a Camaro to get it to work.
3. Little to no fabrication for a TransAm besides the hood.
4. One ???. Anything other than hood needed for Camaro?
LS1 LID
5. Needs hood modified and radiator support but definitely affordable.
6. Make it look well and not like a hackjob.
7. Has aftermarket support for through bottom ram air.

Id say close to 350+ RWHP and you will notice where the CAI's are more restrictive and the LID or WS6 box will give you more results. Now I think it will help on stock and the cam only motors as well, but just not as great.

Personally, I would love to switch to an LS1 lid and get rid of my K&N. So if someone wants to buy it for a decent price i'll probably do the swap soon. Though reading enough I might rather keep, and do some dyno tests when i get my motor together and tuned.

96lt1m6

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I cannot believe this thread is so big.. Its very simple CAMARO- cut core support,mod stock style hood or buy a Cowl Hood!

The notch being cut out can be replaced if you are thinking your car will be worth some catastrophic figure in the future this is really a non-visable mod

If you think it is a "hack job" well you will possibly be a hack.
If you cannot use a jig saw or a sawzall (dont bother)
If you have no measuring skills (dont bother)
If you cant use a pencil (dont bother)
If you cant read or comprehend (DO NOT USE SHARP OBJECTS)

If you had trouble installing a thermostat,bleeding the system, you may not wish to tackle this TASK!

WHATEVER you do dont get mad if you do not see a gain on the dyno,you will at the track in real conditions, dynos dont give time slips

nascarnate326

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What a thread...

wrd1972

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Agreed. I never thought a CAI thread could create so much drama.

96lt1m6

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its really not drama its people that have not experienced something because of their own hang ups and the "dyno factor" lol its just like those that ask about flow #s on heads, the majority do not even understand what the numbers represent and think bigger is better..

however wrd1972 i do understand your point

JoeliusZ28

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you come around here much?

Camaro350z2897

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Now you are arguing about "hack jobbing" and "if you cant youre not worthy" into a how much HP until I should switch my CAI thread.

***** awesome. OP just assume LS1 lid or nothing even at stock.

the_merv

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X2..this is nothing..lol

always faster

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I didnt read all the thread but if some of you are willing to wait a little.I will do a dyno test with my car.I dont know when but i ll do it because my friend is the owner of the shop

I got to install my harwood ws6 style hood.Then i ll dyno the whp with my Moroso CAI and with my new LS1 lid complete setup(slp lid,k&n filter and FTRA).

Then i ll throw the numbers

Camaro350z2897

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that will help. i will try the same thing with the K&N and lid. plus some track times hopefully as well.

96lt1m6

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dyno numbers do not show how the lid or a ram air will function compared to actually getting time slips before and after but go ahead

Camaro350z2897

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well.. ya.. i think everyone is aware that a stationary car on a dyno will not get ram air to be working. I have a hard time thinking the dyno will show much difference between a CAI and Lid, simply for the fact each run is not exact the same and will probably fluctuate as much as a lid would gain from a stand still. but maybe 3 pulls apiece will show a higher avg RWHP number.

but like i said i will try the track as well because thats where i think the better notice is in anything. dyno is just a number like im sure everyone is aware of. it always gets thrown into your face when you say you going to compare something but then when you get your combo together everyones first question is what did it put down!? all im saying is ill do both, and get results on both. no harm, i never said dyno gives ram air

JoeliusZ28

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it will still show the restriction of the 90 degree elbow.

the_merv

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^^That is true..

FASTFATBOY

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Here is a little 411 for you guys. My buddies LS1 car has heads, cam etc. I got the bright idea on the dyno to raise the bottom of the lid off the core support for giggles. We loosened the bolts and put screwdriver handles under each side. About an inch or so higher off the core support.

Peak hp was not changed, but bottom end torque jumped 20 ft lbs instantly from the time the gas was smashed on the pull. the spike eventually got inline with the other pulls in the upper ranges but the bottom was alot different.

You step on his car rolling in 1st gear with 315 nittos and it will hunt a ditch, it made 450 to the wheels.

the_merv

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K..so basically the point there is what most of us are saying..