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Old 09-23-2010, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CWBHOOD
yea but i think the lt1 is a stronger and can take the beatings of hp over a ls...
rick intrau made ~1500 hp and couldnt keep bearings in it. fireball (mod) made 1700 on a stock ls2 block for a whole season... your pick.
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id bet money u could clear 800hp on stock heads intake an TB with an 88mm. we cleared 700hp with only 165cc runners an 15lbs on a buddys car
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
800/550 = 1.455^2= 2.116x the wear

So 5000/2.116 = 2363-3781

The turbo motor would have to be rebuilt every 2363-3781 miles assuming wear goes up exponentially with power.
Maybe you can use your wiz math to explain how many miles a stock lq9 making 825+ rwhp(thru an auto) will go before needing rebuilt? This is assuming it has probably 50-100k miles on it already. Or how about a stock lq4 or lm7 making around 650rwhp, starting out with 150,000 miles. I'll tell you this, it's at least 7,000 miles on one and 12,000 miles on another.

I'm out of the lt1 world, but at 800rwhp you should be able to pull 15,000 miles MINIMUM out of it, well that is assuming you have a good tuneup and fuel and aren't beating the sh*t out of bearings from detonation.
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Originally Posted by skinnies
Maybe you can use your wiz math to explain how many miles a stock lq9 making 825+ rwhp(thru an auto) will go before needing rebuilt? This is assuming it has probably 50-100k miles on it already. Or how about a stock lq4 or lm7 making around 650rwhp, starting out with 150,000 miles. I'll tell you this, it's at least 7,000 miles on one and 12,000 miles on another.

I'm out of the lt1 world, but at 800rwhp you should be able to pull 15,000 miles MINIMUM out of it, well that is assuming you have a good tuneup and fuel and aren't beating the sh*t out of bearings from detonation.
LSx's have 6 bolt mains so multiply that number by 3. So 7089-11343 miles. The 12k mile motor blew up at least 600 miles ago so you better go check that out.
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Originally Posted by skinnies
I'm out of the lt1 world, but at 800rwhp you should be able to pull 15,000 miles MINIMUM out of it, well that is assuming you have a good tuneup and fuel and aren't beating the sh*t out of bearings from detonation.
YOU would THINK that would be CORRECT, RIGHT???
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The fastest 6-speed LT1 was with an eagle 355 build, ported lt1 castings, and an 88mm turbo.



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well i can add a little bit to this........my shortblock is built to take a high hp high rpm beating heres what i paid..........

4 bolt billet main caps $300
Callies Magnum Crank $1450
Oliver 6" Billet Steel Rods $1200
SRP Proseries Pistons $700
Machine work...bore..align bore and hone...balance...blueprint...magnaflux and sonic test...deck the block and correct all geometrys including lifter bores was $1400
Clevite Bearings $200 H Series
ARP PRO series main studs $150 IIRC??
Then you need an oil pump/pickup/pan $400

From what i can see i got around $5500ish in just my shortblock with me doing all of the clearance checking and assembly. Of course i can beat it like a red headed step child now but still......the $$ grow quickly when taking on a project of this caliber.
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
But then it would need to be rebuilt every 2-3k miles instead of 5-8k
not quite......rpm is the killer of motors not so much horsepower......correctly built even the biggest baddest motors will last.......

Originally Posted by speed_demon24
800/550 = 1.455^2= 2.116x the wear

So 5000/2.116 = 2363-3781

The turbo motor would have to be rebuilt every 2363-3781 miles assuming wear goes up exponentially with power.
i know this was a joke lol....good creativity though lol

Originally Posted by SS RRR
You can't keep **** running N/A. What makes you think you could make a FI application run until it's next required "refresh?" You keep mouthing about all these different applications and how easy they are. Do it already. What about that Vette bone stock motor you were carrying on about outrunning a new GT? How's that project going?
It's easy to criticize you when you make idiotic statements like how a "refresh" is required for a 550hp N/A engine after what was it? Five or eight thousand miles?
jeez take it easy man lol....

Originally Posted by brucer
i'm sure those diesel engines running 14:1 compression or more and 30lbs of boost or more are rebuilding that often..

if its setup correct you dont have to **** with it no more than a blown carbureted setup or a na setup.. probably have to mess with a na setup even more actually..
14:1 CR here on a gas motor lol........ive got about 180 passes and about 3000 street miles on mine and its running just fine with a big *** cam and revving 8000 on a normal basis.......built correctly they WILL last....

Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
there's alot of people posting in here that shouldnt be. the guy with the big block idea....

like fastfatboy said... 355 or 383, 88mm, and some big heads is an easy 700+ rwhp. buddy of mine did it with a gt47, comp ported afr 227s (non eliminator) on a 355 with eagle 4340 stuff. stock computer and opti as well.
agreed.........with u and fastfatboy......it can be done with a stock ecm i have seen it done and been part of tuning one with a stock ecm........it IS doable...

Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
high quality machine work and assembly, good parts, safe tune, good fuel.
yes yes yes yes........exactly.....thats what lets them live......

Originally Posted by speed_demon24
LSx's have 6 bolt mains so multiply that number by 3. So 7089-11343 miles. The 12k mile motor blew up at least 600 miles ago so you better go check that out.
good lord lol.....again creativity lol

Originally Posted by SS RRR
YOU would THINK that would be CORRECT, RIGHT???
lol
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wow lol........

guys for the sake of the OP lets stay on this guys question.....no need to wander off like this
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Id rather be fast and tear my junk down WEEKLY that have a 396 solid roller six speed PILE and run mid 12's.

BTW quik95lt1 isnt much quicker than me......hes on race fuel, fast system, bigger cam, more gear, bigger converter.... so why is mine overbuilt and hes not? Just curious.

Nothing against you quik, just making a point.
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I sure hope I can build a 12 second SR stroker one day...

Orrr.... I'll just do it with a budget cam only car.



Tell you what. I have more respect for the guy running mid-low 10s and blowing 2 motors than the guy that has a 12 second solid roller stroker. Both cases may show builder problems, but at least one is fast...
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Originally Posted by LSWHO
I sure hope I can build a 12 second SR stroker one day...

Orrr.... I'll just do it with a budget cam only car.



Tell you what. I have more respect for the guy running mid-low 10s and blowing 2 motors than the guy that has a 12 second solid roller stroker. Both cases may show builder problems, but at least one is fast...
who's this guy?
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
who's this guy?
The guy that thinks SS RRR should shut up already.

Green live! stfu.


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