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Old 10-15-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
This is the fastest cam only lt1 I could find.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/show...66&postcount=1
... and it's a custom cam, which blows your theory all to hell.
Old 10-15-2010, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 94maro
mine went 13.1 at 110 with out the cam and rockers (cc503)(1.6)

and after the swap it went 13.001 at 110..lol i was like wtf!!!!! i beleive my heads are holding me back from letting it breath.... any input would be nice..and the 13.001 was with a 1.9 60ft street tires
Dude, that sucks to be you, but how the hell would you have trapped 110mph stock???? Maybe your car already had a cam in it that nobody told you about when you bought your car??? Lol. Doesn't make sense, unless you raced way below sea level and then at the top of mt everest with the cam. I'm going to the track this weekend for the first time with cam and if I trap the same as I did with headers...102, then I'll be pissed!!! But I already know my car is faster.
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
This is the fastest cam only lt1 I could find.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/show...66&postcount=1
interesting.
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^ I call bullshit
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
^ I call bullshit
-800 DA helped. Most people aren't running at 0 DA, let alone -800

Stock cam cars have run mid 11s. So I can see a cam car running that quick. Problem is the mod list seems a little light or parts were left out. Or his weight is on the generous side.

He also said stock head. Not unported stock head. It was never discussed in the thread either. Plenty of people word things certain ways to mislead.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
... and it's a custom cam, which blows your theory all to hell.
Damn it. And him being a personal friend of Joe's I bet it's a true custom one-off too. Damn it.

Who was the guy running the crane 227 that had the record everybody talks about? What did he run?

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Im thinking Frank also had the 227 in his car and held the cam only record, then switched to that Joe O cam and buried the record deeper. He has been a legend back in the cz28.com days for running that quick and fast.
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Originally Posted by LSWHO
Damn it. And him being a personal friend of Joe's I bet it's a true custom one-off too. Damn it.

Who was the guy running the crane 227 that had the record everybody talks about? What did he run?
I wonder if it's that 222/226 cam?
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Originally Posted by STOCKTA
Im thinking Frank also had the 227 in his car and held the cam only record, then switched to that Joe O cam and buried the record deeper. He has been a legend back in the cz28.com days for running that quick and fast.
I thought his name was Frank too. So being the same guy makes sense.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
... and it's a custom cam, which blows your theory all to hell.
He still went 116 with the crane 227 cam. That's one deathly serious car!
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
He still went 116 with the crane 227 cam. That's one deathly serious car!
Record holding materials?
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
He still went 116 with the crane 227 cam. That's one deathly serious car!
3 mph from a true custom cam. Imagine that. Now I've been proven wrong before, but this seems different. Can you guys help me out here?
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Originally Posted by LSWHO
3 mph from a true custom cam. Imagine that. Now I've been proven wrong before, but this seems different. Can you guys help me out here?
You mean 3mph from running in better air and gaining 20+ degrees of duration?
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
You mean 3mph from running in better air and gaining 20+ degrees of duration?
Oh, of course. Duration. Isn't that a cam function?

Oh! I get it. If I add 20 degrees duration I'll go faster, right? So what happens if I add 80? Or do you have to optimize it to the car and it's setup? Now if I optimize more than duration to the car's exact setup could that do even more for performance? I think that sort of thing would be called custom. Not a shelf cam from comp or lunati or ai or le. I would hope that being friends with the guy speccing the cams would actually spec me a specific one.

I had a birdie once tell me that duration isn't the only thing a cam changes? That's weird. Cause you make it sound like that's all that happened in this case (other than the weather of course). I guess you're right, You have a lot of posts and a high 11 second car... and SSRRR is in bed with you, so that's something too.

Oh and can you show me where you got the DA on his 227 cam run? I haven't seen it. Not that I don't believe the validity of you saying that (honestly). I just want to see it.

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Originally Posted by LSWHO
Oh, of course. Duration. Isn't that a cam function?

Oh! I get it. If I add 20 degrees duration I'll go faster, right? So what happens if I add 80? Or do you have to optimize it to the car and it's setup? Now if I optimize more than duration to the car's exact setup could that do even more for performance? I think that sort of thing would be called custom. Not a shelf cam from comp or lunati or ai or le. I would hope that being friends with the guy speccing the cams would actually spec me a specific one.

I had a birdie once tell me that duration isn't the only thing a cam changes? That's weird. Cause you make it sound like that's all that happened in this case (other than the weather of course). I guess you're right, You have a lot of posts and a high 11 second car... and SSRRR is in bed with you, so that's something too.

Oh and can you show me where you got the DA on his 227 cam run? I haven't seen it. Not that I don't believe the validity of you saying that (honestly). I just want to see it.
It's in the link I posted. And your right I only made 430rwhp and trap 120 on my stock shortblock daily driver... garbage
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
It's in the link I posted. And your right I only made 430rwhp and trap 120 on my stock shortblock daily driver... garbage
No, you have a nice car. 430whp/120 traps are awesome. But no matter what car you have you can be wrong about something.
It happens to the best of us.
It happened to you.

Using your car as an excuse to being correct is not sound thinking. (that's why I brought it up. Along with post count. Completely inconsequential.)

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Originally Posted by LSWHO
No, you have a nice car. 430whp/120 traps are awesome. But no matter what car you have you can be wrong about something.
It happens to the best of us.
It happened to you.

Using your car as an excuse to being correct is not sound thinking. (that's why I brought it up. Along with post count. Completely inconsequential.)
Yep I brag about my massive 3000 posts over 9 years as well. That proves that Frank didn't say he would have likely ran 11.30 with his old cam as the pb with the custom cam in that thread. But I understand that it's too much effort to read through a 3 page thread and see for yourself. So let me help you out. If you need help deciphering this gibberish let me know.

Originally Posted by Frank95z
Marshall Its bigger than most off shelf cams and thats all I really care to share. But the cam is only a small part of the overall combo. On the day that i ran 11.15 with my current cam my old combo(Crane 210/224) would have most likely ran a 11.30. Frank95z
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Yep I brag about my massive 3000 posts over 9 years as well. That proves that Frank didn't say he would have likely ran 11.30 with his old cam as the pb with the custom cam in that thread. But I understand that it's too much effort to read through a 3 page thread and see for yourself. So let me help you out. If you need help deciphering this gibberish let me know.
So let me get this straight. To illustrate your point you show that the new custom cam is better, straight from the horses mouth?

What the hell are you saying? Are you contradicting yourself or are we arguing the same thing on the same side?

You have shown that his custom cam is faster than his shelf cam. I've said custom cams are faster than shelf cams. You called me stupid for saying so. Yet you are now THROWING facts out showing I'm right.

Can you make sense of your nonsense??
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One last thing I could ask here.

Are you saying that if he switched out his custom Joe O cam to any shelf cam (as in any available) he'd run faster?

What ARE you saying?

Illustrate it for me. Clearly I'm the dense one.
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LSWHO- its better off to just rest it. havent you seen where these disputes get you? (from a great movie) ******* nowhere. where you goin? no where


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