LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

RWHP in the LT1???

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Old 10-18-2010, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Yo for real, where's the negativity? Enlighten me.
I guess they think this thread is harsh since the OP asked everyone for their opinion.
Old 10-18-2010, 04:22 PM
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switch out the edelbroke headers for some long tubes, like everyone is saying.

The stall isnt "crap" its a stall. If you really want to play with the big boys get a 3000+ vig or yank stall. Nothing anywhere says a 2200 stall is crap unless the STR or something is low.

Ported maf isnt helping or hurting you.

Get a custom tune and youll be in business.

Hotcam is a waste of time, ill agree there. For the time and money youll have invested doing the cam swap, the first time you get on it, youll wish you went bigger. I tell everyone who does cams, go big! not saying massive but just dont get a cam thats slightly larger then stock.

CC503 or A/I 226/234 or Crane 227 seem to be what alot of people like for a stock headed car. GM846 might be in there as well?
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Stock stall is right around 2000.

Ported MAFs completely throw off the calibration of the MAF at the expense of ASSumed additional airflow. They are proven to be more trouble than they are worth.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Where's the hate? WTF you talkin' about Willis?
he ask how much power he should be putting down, not what is your opinion on the parts that the has installed
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Originally Posted by gorge
he ask how much power he should be putting down, not what is your opinion on the parts that the has installed
Did you even read the original post?
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
Yes, when people are gaining 2 tenths opening the cutout when they are intake/flowmaster catback only, that's a huge restriction. In comparison my runs with my old motor were identical with the cutout closed and open
What exhaust setup was on your old motor out of curiosity?

I'm not saying there is no restriction, I just think it is blown out of proportion. I didn't gain any more rwhp or ET/MPH at the track with a cutout on my Flowmaster than my friend did with a cutout on his Magnaflow. 2 tenths is double what I picked up and my car was cam/bolt-on.

Not trying to start an argument, my personal experiences have just never reflected the online disgust that is directed at Flowmaster

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Im one of the ones that gained 2 tenths with a cutout and flowmaster exhaust. Hopefully once my LS1 lid conversion is on ill gain more time.


Stock Stall is 2000? no bullshit?
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Originally Posted by gorge
so much ******* hate on this site, no wonder people get pissed off
Sounds like you get your e-feeling hurt easily. Grow some thicker skin.

Deleted all advice, Joe pointed out the guy doesn't even own the car, wow. That's special.
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I guess no one read the original post. He's LOOKING at buying a car with those mods listed - he doesn't even own it yet.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
What exhaust setup was on your old motor out of curiosity?

I'm not saying there is no restriction, I just think it is blown out of proportion. I didn't gain any more rwhp or ET/MPH at the track with a cutout on my Flowmaster than my friend did with a cutout on his Magnaflow. 2 tenths is double what I picked up and my car was cam/bolt-on.

Not trying to start an argument, my personal experiences have just never reflected the online disgust that is directed at Flowmaster
Edelbrock Shorties/Stock y/GMMG with a QTP cutout before the axle. I personally know people that ran a 13.6-7 with a flowmaster catback and then opened the cutout and dropped to 13.4
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
I personally know people that ran a 13.6-7 with a flowmaster catback and then opened the cutout and dropped to 13.4
2-3 mph gains would mean the Flowmaster is even more restrictive than the stocker, wouldn't it?

Here are my results on two of my previous cars:

1994 Trans Am, A4, mild bolt-on setup. The slip on the left is with the cutout closed, running through the Flowmaster catback. The slip on the right is the next pass I made when I opened the cutout. These passes were about an hour apart.



1993 Trans Am, A4, pretty much all the bolt-ons except for rocker arms and a throttle body. The green line is through the Flowmaster catback and the red and blue lines are with the cutout open. I gained 5 rwhp and 5-6 rwtq from the cutout.



Like I said, these are just my experiences

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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ

I gained 5 rwhp and 5-6 rwtq from the cutout.

Like I said, these are just my experiences
Don't most cars usually gain a few hp from having a cutout whether it's a Flowmaster, Borla, etc? At least from my experience from seeing before and after cutout dyno's on misc cars.
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265rwhp 270 t
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God damn.... negativity i don't see. Thank you all for your opinions.... After reading this, i wont be getting this car... I am going to check out a 95 Forumla M6!!!! Check out my new post about the formula vs a SRT4... ****** **** TALKER HE IS!!

Thanks again everyone.
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Originally Posted by fex77k
It really depends on the dyno and how well the car is running. I would say at least 240rwhp and possibly 290ish rwtq.
240hp ha what a joke dude maybe if it was running off 6 cylinders
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Originally Posted by LigHtEmUp01
240hp ha what a joke dude maybe if it was running off 6 cylinders
Do you actually have anything to say? What do you suggest a automatic LT1 that's over 10 years old and internally stock will run on any dyno?
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Originally Posted by trilkb
Im one of the ones that gained 2 tenths with a cutout and flowmaster exhaust. Hopefully once my LS1 lid conversion is on ill gain more time.


Stock Stall is 2000? no bullshit?
Stock stall on LT1's is 1650 but they tend to stall anywhere from 1600 to 1900. It is a crap shoot with stockers. My factory stock converter stalled at 1700 and the new rebuilt one stalls at 2000. lol I need to do a good 2500+ stall as soon as my trans lasts more than a damn year.
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Originally Posted by fex77k
It really depends on the dyno and how well the car is running. I would say at least 240rwhp and possibly 290ish rwtq.
Yeah how do you figure... when a stock LT1 rated at 275hp with a 17% drive line loss would put down about 230rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Young camaro
Yeah how do you figure... when a stock LT1 rated at 275hp with a 17% drive line loss would put down about 230rwhp.
Im not good with math, what do they put down stock? around 230rwhp?
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I dyno'd 231/270 stock. (cylinder 4/8 random misses and needing a tune up) Doubt it would have done much better.

Edit: and a bad o2. Forgot I had that for 1.5 years too!

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