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Old 10-22-2010, 06:52 PM
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Default Clutch Opinions - No Ram or Spec Allowed

I recently replaced a short living Spec Stage 2 (installed by previous owner) with a Ram Powergrip. Since installing the Ram Powergrip, my car has traveled a total of 2 miles and has given me nothing but problems.

So what kind of clutch are you guys running? I want something that will hold similar power to a Ram Powergrip (~450HP) but price is also important.

Any suggestions?

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Figure out how to do a clutch install before throwing more $$ down the toilet.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with RAM or SPEC....
Old 10-22-2010, 07:04 PM
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Mcleod Twin Disc /THREAD!
Old 10-22-2010, 07:06 PM
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Been using a Spec 4 for 7 yrs or so, close to 100 runs on it with DR's leaving between 3-5k and its holding up well. Not the most streetable clutch, kinda grabby but tolerable. Just my $.02 on them.
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Figure out how to do a clutch install before throwing more $$ down the toilet.
Someone have a bad day? Grow up. You don't know anything about me or the people I had help with the installs.
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
Absolutely nothing wrong with RAM or SPEC....
I've heard things about Spec having short lives and after the lack of customer service from Ram, I've made my choice to avoid either company. It's a personal choice.
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I just received my Competition Clutch stage 2. It wont be installed for a couple of months.
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
I just received my Competition Clutch stage 2. It wont be installed for a couple of months.
Never heard of them. I'll have to look into them.
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monster make a good one, check TSP

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Originally Posted by CajunZ28
monster make a good one, check TSP
Not for LT1's.
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On my recent rebuild, I went with Zoom clutches and their kevlar friction disc. Has a stiffer pedal then the centerforce that was in the car, didn't know the centerforce was in it, so not sure how heavy a stock pedal is, but the Zoom isn't unbearable just a little stiffer. Anyways, my car is full bolt-ons with LE1 heads and cam and when I was breaking in the clutch, it was bear, chattering and grabbing hard on take off. But, right around 500-750mi. (they say 1K mile break in for Kevlar) the clutch smoothed out and grabbed perfect. After about 2K miles on it now, I love the clutch, grabs hard and smooth.

Just my .02,
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Figure out how to do a clutch install before throwing more $$ down the toilet.
I have to agree.
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Originally Posted by gregrob
I have to agree.
I've spoken with atleast 3-4 different people having this problem and it's always with the Ram Powergrip, do a search. The Spec wasn't installed by me, but the previous owner claimed it only had 2,000 miles before crapping out, which is also a common problem on these boards.
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I personally have assisted in the install of a ram powergrip clutch on two different cars. They never had problems. How is yours so different?

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Originally Posted by 1badzee
I personally have assisted in the install of a ram powergrip clutch on two different cars. They never had problems. How is yours so different?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. If I was the ONLY person having this problem, then I would put myself at blame but the very fact that MULTIPLE people have emailed me and PMed me about the same problem with the same clutch set-up brings me to believe that there is something wrong with the clutch itself. Are we all incapable of installing a clutch and just all happen to buy a Ram? I HIGHLY doubt that.

Not to mention that I had help installing the disc from people who have installed multiple clutches without issue.

On a side note, Ram has recently started using the Chinese Knock Off pressure plates instead of the Valeo (sp?) ones.

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...ats-wrong.html


Originally Posted by ajonesz28 on LTXTech
did you ever fix your clutch im having the same problem as you
Those are two different people having the same problem, with the same set up. Those are just two of the multiple people having this issue. So before you starting putting my capabilities at fault, I would look into that.
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Originally Posted by gregrob
I have to agree.
i agree as well. add clutches to the list of easy things 50% of lt1 owners have problems with.

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clutches
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This is getting ridiculous. Instead of telling me to "learn to install a clutch" why don't you tell me what I could have done wrong that would cause this issue?

I never claimed to be an expert and one of the biggest reasons I come on here is to get help from people who know more than me - not to be bashed by them.

And id still love for someone to explain how this problem seems to only happen with RECENTLY purchased Ram Powergrips? It's a common problem and I didn't know about it until after I had the same problem and started reading around.
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The powergrip does seem to have some longevity issues from my experience with them. The pg hd is a bit better but a little grabby for the street. The spec stage 2 I had never lost the clutch chatter, it did hold fine though. I am now a mcleod user...


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