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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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I currently run a K&N CAI, I am debating doing a LS1 lid, but do not really want to cut etc..

Would that style intake show any gains over a K&N? I need a tenth give or take...
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Depends on the rest of your setup. A bolt-on car won't benefit nearly as much as something more heavily modded.
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It runs a 12.1@116, much fail.

Heads/cam car.
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 01:44 AM
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MPH is decent, whats the DA?

I would think at that point it could make up a tenth...
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
It runs a 12.1@116, much fail.

Heads/cam car.
Without knowing the specs of the car, suspension, etc, DA, all I can say looking at ET and MPH is that it would appear that you can find a few tenths in your 60' rather than an air intake system. 116 is good mph and should put you solidly in the 11s 11.80-90s with a good 60'...

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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My 60's are consistantly 1.7-1.8, I know there is room to grow there but that wasn't my question. Would that style intake show gains over a k&n?
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
My 60's are consistantly 1.7-1.8, I know there is room to grow there but that wasn't my question. Would that style intake show gains over a k&n?
If you want a track option then take off the filter. An open tube can give a tenth over the filtered.
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I should have kept my K&N and swapped them at the track one day to see if it made any difference. In theory, I'd have to think it helped some but there's no concrete evidence to support this. That being said, the filter is larger, the MAF is larger and the pipe is larger as well as shorter and has less bends before it hits the TB.

Under the radiator support is an LPE C6 air filter and a 100mm MAF.
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Any pics of the rest of the setup? The filter just sits in front of the radiator? Any chance of getting an average IAT reading?
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I may have a few pics somewhere. I'll have to look.

For the IAT readings, I don't have any logs at the track where it would be most meaningful. I'll be changing my O2's in a few days and plan on doing some logging afterward. I'll let you know what I find.
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That's gotta be sickest engine bay I seen in a really long time.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Here's a few pics. Sorry about the quality.

LPE C6 Filter with LPE 100mm MAF
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tx20d/5120104675/
LPE 100mm MAF vs Stock LT1 MAF
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tx20d/5120708672/
Filter, MAF and pipe in front of the radiator. The small hose is one of the opti vacuum lines
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tx20d/5120105337/
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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I assume that its safe to say that your setup would not work with an A/C condensor in place? Also, I would think that this would draw a lot of hot air on extended idle times? (i.e. daily driver??) I am just curious becuase I just purchased an LS1 setup and now I like the look/feel of your setup.... Any input?
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I assume that its safe to say that your setup would not work with an A/C condensor in place? Also, I would think that this would draw a lot of hot air on extended idle times? (i.e. daily driver??) I am just curious becuase I just purchased an LS1 setup and now I like the look/feel of your setup.... Any input?
Yeah, it definitely won't work with the AC in place. IMO, I wouldn't be too concerned with IATs during idle. WOT is where it matters.

I managed to dig up a datamaster log from back in July when the outside temps were in the 90s with humidity in the high 90s. During a 13 minute drive (stop and go), my IAT's averaged about 100 deg. The IAT readings would go up when I stopped but would go back down once I started moving again. It doesn't appear to have too much of an effect on the engine temps either. During that same time engine temps averaged around 184 deg and never got over 190 deg.
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Originally Posted by Formula383
Yeah, it definitely won't work with the AC in place. IMO, I wouldn't be too concerned with IATs during idle. WOT is where it matters.

I managed to dig up a datamaster log from back in July when the outside temps were in the 90s with humidity in the high 90s. During a 13 minute drive (stop and go), my IAT's averaged about 100 deg. The IAT readings would go up when I stopped but would go back down once I started moving again. It doesn't appear to have too much of an effect on the engine temps either. During that same time engine temps averaged around 184 deg and never got over 190 deg.
The launch is the most important part of a run and that's when IAT's would be at their highest. The LS1 guys found out the FRA actually slowed them down to sucking in hot air on the launch and hurting their 60'.
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
The launch is the most important part of a run and that's when IAT's would be at their highest. The LS1 guys found out the FRA actually slowed them down to sucking in hot air on the launch and hurting their 60'.
For an N/A setup, I could see that. For nitrous, probably not. I'm cutting mid 1.4 60's on that setup still spinning the tires a little and I'm guessing that I'll be in the high 1.3 range with the new spool. I don't think it's hurting my 60' times. 95blackm6 was asking about DD behavior not squeezing a few tenths off his street car. If he's not tracking the car, then 60' times don't really matter.

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