Opti Eliminator preview...
I agree, looked like a promising idea..
If I were you guys, I'd check out Dynaspark (http://dynaspark.net/advantage/) because they make a product that's just as sweet and it's about the same price. The "GEN III" is the one you want. FYI, I've been using their GEN I for over 6 years; that's over 70,000 miles and a ****-ton of abuse from weather and cross-country travel. I haven't had to touch it once since I installed it. It has performed ridiculously well, and I haven't been this satisfied with an automotive product in a verry long time. If I weren't upgrading to the GEN III and LS1 coils very soon, it'd probably last forever (minus the cap and rotor obviously). Check 'em out!!
http://dynaspark.net/advantage/
http://dynaspark.net/products/
If I were you guys, I'd check out Dynaspark (http://dynaspark.net/advantage/) because they make a product that's just as sweet and it's about the same price. The "GEN III" is the one you want. FYI, I've been using their GEN I for over 6 years; that's over 70,000 miles and a ****-ton of abuse from weather and cross-country travel. I haven't had to touch it once since I installed it. It has performed ridiculously well, and I haven't been this satisfied with an automotive product in a verry long time. If I weren't upgrading to the GEN III and LS1 coils very soon, it'd probably last forever (minus the cap and rotor obviously). Check 'em out!!
http://dynaspark.net/advantage/
http://dynaspark.net/products/
Dynaspark isnt owned by the same people anymore just FYI. There are a few threads about dynasparks product quality these days.
Also, Dynaspark is not an "opti-eliminator" it's just another (better built?) opti-spark. I think I'll pass.
FWIW, my car already had an MSD opti when I got it 13k miles ago and it works great, BUT I still worry about it since I have heard their track record isn't that good either.
I'm still hoping Steve get's this worked out. It looks like it was really off to a great start and the prototype parts look like quality stuff. IDK why some people were giving him a hard time.
IMO, going 24x is just too expensive for the average LT1 owner who just wants reliability.
Tinbender's Vortec distributor & 411 pcm conversion looks promising too. I also don't understand why his thread hasn't gotten more interest. Most who have went 24x or plan to go have stated the main reason (besides no more opti failure) is the pcm capabilities, but it's the same PCM...so most of the 24x's benefit could be seen for much less money.
FWIW, my car already had an MSD opti when I got it 13k miles ago and it works great, BUT I still worry about it since I have heard their track record isn't that good either.
I'm still hoping Steve get's this worked out. It looks like it was really off to a great start and the prototype parts look like quality stuff. IDK why some people were giving him a hard time.
IMO, going 24x is just too expensive for the average LT1 owner who just wants reliability.
Tinbender's Vortec distributor & 411 pcm conversion looks promising too. I also don't understand why his thread hasn't gotten more interest. Most who have went 24x or plan to go have stated the main reason (besides no more opti failure) is the pcm capabilities, but it's the same PCM...so most of the 24x's benefit could be seen for much less money.
I already have some coil packs. Making brackets would be easy enough. I already have a 97 model, so the front timing cover is covered. I'm not sure what all that leaves, but just a wiring harness and pcm aren't cheap....plus I will either have to buy software and learn to tune or pay someone else to do it. I do realize that alot of the $$ I mention also applies to the vortec dist conversion....and that tuning an obd2 lt1 costs about the same, but I switched to obd1 for less than $50 and a friend tuned it for free. (Not much to do since it's bolt on only at the moment.) I would think that I would have to invest a good bit for a base tune even with a stock lt1 and an ls1 computer.
The Vortec dizzy 411 conversion looks to be very interesting on the price:performance standpoint, but I just hate the thought of shoehorning a dizzy under a 4th gen cowl. Maintenance like cap/rotor changes will be a PITA, if even possible with the engine in the car. It is clearly the cheapest route for an LS pcm setup though.
Ideally the full 24x conversion kit looks the most appealing, but its big $$$...enough to be poking into aftermarket options like used Gen7s, or XFIs. Especially for people like myself whose ancient abused harness is not trustworthy enough to be repinned and put into a brand new engine.
My choices are to lose some hair and make a custom harness myself from scratch, purchase a used/ebay/junkyard harness and hope its in usable condition to repin, or shell out big bucks for a company like EFI Connections or ProJection to make a harness for me. None or those options are too appealing.
Hopefully Wicked comes through with this cheaper "Opti-trigger" setup to run a 411 PCM without a rear mounted dizzy or a drastically modified harness.
Ideally the full 24x conversion kit looks the most appealing, but its big $$$...enough to be poking into aftermarket options like used Gen7s, or XFIs. Especially for people like myself whose ancient abused harness is not trustworthy enough to be repinned and put into a brand new engine.
My choices are to lose some hair and make a custom harness myself from scratch, purchase a used/ebay/junkyard harness and hope its in usable condition to repin, or shell out big bucks for a company like EFI Connections or ProJection to make a harness for me. None or those options are too appealing.
Hopefully Wicked comes through with this cheaper "Opti-trigger" setup to run a 411 PCM without a rear mounted dizzy or a drastically modified harness.
The Vortec dizzy 411 conversion looks to be very interesting on the price:performance standpoint, but I just hate the thought of shoehorning a dizzy under a 4th gen cowl. Maintenance like cap/rotor changes will be a PITA, if even possible with the engine in the car. It is clearly the cheapest route for an LS pcm setup though.
Ideally the full 24x conversion kit looks the most appealing, but its big $$$...enough to be poking into aftermarket options like used Gen7s, or XFIs. Especially for people like myself whose ancient abused harness is not trustworthy enough to be repinned and put into a brand new engine.
My choices are to lose some hair and make a custom harness myself from scratch, purchase a used/ebay/junkyard harness and hope its in usable condition to repin, or shell out big bucks for a company like EFI Connections or ProJection to make a harness for me. None or those options are too appealing.
Hopefully Wicked comes through with this cheaper "Opti-trigger" setup to run a 411 PCM without a rear mounted dizzy or a drastically modified harness.
Ideally the full 24x conversion kit looks the most appealing, but its big $$$...enough to be poking into aftermarket options like used Gen7s, or XFIs. Especially for people like myself whose ancient abused harness is not trustworthy enough to be repinned and put into a brand new engine.
My choices are to lose some hair and make a custom harness myself from scratch, purchase a used/ebay/junkyard harness and hope its in usable condition to repin, or shell out big bucks for a company like EFI Connections or ProJection to make a harness for me. None or those options are too appealing.
Hopefully Wicked comes through with this cheaper "Opti-trigger" setup to run a 411 PCM without a rear mounted dizzy or a drastically modified harness.
If you ask me, I think people using an XFi or DFI can benefit from this setup the most. Dual sync and dizzy failures are common place and it sucks to get stranded.
If you can do this.. my paypal is ready
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I agree, looked like a promising idea..
If I were you guys, I'd check out Dynaspark (http://dynaspark.net/advantage/) because they make a product that's just as sweet and it's about the same price. The "GEN III" is the one you want. FYI, I've been using their GEN I for over 6 years; that's over 70,000 miles and a ****-ton of abuse from weather and cross-country travel. I haven't had to touch it once since I installed it. It has performed ridiculously well, and I haven't been this satisfied with an automotive product in a verry long time. If I weren't upgrading to the GEN III and LS1 coils very soon, it'd probably last forever (minus the cap and rotor obviously). Check 'em out!!
http://dynaspark.net/advantage/
http://dynaspark.net/products/
If I were you guys, I'd check out Dynaspark (http://dynaspark.net/advantage/) because they make a product that's just as sweet and it's about the same price. The "GEN III" is the one you want. FYI, I've been using their GEN I for over 6 years; that's over 70,000 miles and a ****-ton of abuse from weather and cross-country travel. I haven't had to touch it once since I installed it. It has performed ridiculously well, and I haven't been this satisfied with an automotive product in a verry long time. If I weren't upgrading to the GEN III and LS1 coils very soon, it'd probably last forever (minus the cap and rotor obviously). Check 'em out!!
http://dynaspark.net/advantage/
http://dynaspark.net/products/
Dynaspark has gone downhill ever since it was sold by Dynotech Engineering back in ~2006. If you bought your unit prior to that time, you may have the desired Mitsubishi optical sensor and I would suspect it could last a long time. Their current units have been value-engineered to cut costs (and cut quality), plus they utilize an inferior optical sensor - The same sensor that can be had in a $100-$150 Optispark repalcement. With their current design, and inability to properly support the product, there isn't much of a reason to consider a new Dynsapark with the alternatives that are still available. (Click the link in my sig if you want to read more.)
EDIT: The Dynaspark "advantage" page hasn't been updated in years and still has inaccurate information. For example, on rotors: "...balanced to 6800 RPM" - There is no evidence of this at all. All they do is drill out a plastic rivet and replace it with an aluminum rivet.
Last edited by jb442; Aug 22, 2011 at 02:39 AM.
I can't believe I didnt see this thread long ago... I am running a dfi setup and will soon have a crank trigger from msd or an ATI shell with embedded magnets for crank pickup but wanted something better than the dual sync for cam pickup. If you can make me a cam pickup (believe its a 1x for cam I forget) that would be phenomenal. A crank pickup as well would be cool too if possible inside the housing (although I like the idea of seperate triggers).
If you ask me, I think people using an XFi or DFI can benefit from this setup the most. Dual sync and dizzy failures are common place and it sucks to get stranded.
If you can do this.. my paypal is ready Good luck get your stuff sorted and I hope to hear from you soon !!
If you ask me, I think people using an XFi or DFI can benefit from this setup the most. Dual sync and dizzy failures are common place and it sucks to get stranded.
If you can do this.. my paypal is ready
Good luck get your stuff sorted and I hope to hear from you soon !! He just doesn't post here...and I can't really blame him sometimes
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Believe that is much of what the defunct Delteq system did.
FWIW I have never had an opti failure, and taken Delco units unmodified to 7000rpm.
IMO on all but the wildest setups the wrench behind the opti is the problem, not the opti.
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there was actually a guy local to me a few years back tryin to research it. he had started on a prototype and got called an idiot for tryin to come up with his own solution and never heard about it again.
I've never had an opti failure myself, but I can't fault people for wanting to get rid of it.
Where are you getting Delco units at? I bought one from an Ac Delco distributor and the box said Delco, opti said Delphi. It lasted less than 2k miles, carbon tracking in the cap.
This thread is dead so untill the OP restarts the thread why do people keep bitching about it? Only way to get rid of the OPTI saga is to do the 24x. Delco opti or not there a timebomb waiting to explode just a matter of time before it goes. Could be first crank or 200,000 miles its never a guarantee.
That is the kind of stupidity that breeds around these parts. If a distributor lasts 200K that is proof of an excellent piece. A distributor cap and rotor are wear items, and cheap ones at that compared to the hoops people jump through to avoid it.
Far as carbon tracking try upgrading to a vented setup either the GM parts or with the MSD cap and rotor kit that retrofits a vent to the "unvented" style opti.
Far as carbon tracking try upgrading to a vented setup either the GM parts or with the MSD cap and rotor kit that retrofits a vent to the "unvented" style opti.