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Old 05-10-2011, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by joelster
The lifters are what get you money wise. Any decent solid roller lifter will be $500, with some going well over a grand. You have to read up on them too, because some of them are race only and won't have the proper oiling to live on the street.

These are good for LT1 guys:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-888-16/

.300" taller so the link bar clears the valley, and they have the extra oiling groove for street use and low-rpm use.
thats where a HIPPO lifter comes into play.......i run them and drive on the street a decent amount........and the lifters still look great......
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Yep Hippos are great...

Also whats the part number on the jesel shaft system MIKE?
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I have $500 HR lifters lol
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which ones Greg
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
Yep Hippos are great...

Also whats the part number on the jesel shaft system MIKE?
kss-336060


Originally Posted by gregrob
I have $500 HR lifters lol
haha yea i used to have those i paid $535 for the crane race hydraulic rollers back in the day..........(aka 4 years ago lol)
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I have Morels
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Originally Posted by gregrob
I have Morels
yea im running their SR lifters now..........things are the cats ***!!!!
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shaft system depends on what heads you're running, different offsets for different heads
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
shaft system depends on what heads you're running, different offsets for different heads
absolutly correct
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and just to set everyone straight, EVERY solid roller lifter will eventually fail or be beaten out of spec. It's just a question of when, and it doesn't matter if you're running a crane ultra-pro, isky red zone, or whatever the latest private label fancy names are, all of them can fail in a moments notice. Tight lash cams help, as well as non-offset pushrod cups help, spring pressure doesn't seem to matter much as long as you're controlling the valve and you have a stiff pushrod.
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
and just to set everyone straight, EVERY solid roller lifter will eventually fail or be beaten out of spec. It's just a question of when, and it doesn't matter if you're running a crane ultra-pro, isky red zone, or whatever the latest private label fancy names are, all of them can fail in a moments notice. Tight lash cams help, as well as non-offset pushrod cups help, spring pressure doesn't seem to matter much as long as you're controlling the valve and you have a stiff pushrod.
Agreed. This is why all the higher end SR lifters are rebuildable for a modest fee.
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An advantage with a hydraulic setup is you don't have the shock on the roller as you do with a lash-type valvetrain. An important thing to remember is the lash take-up ramp on the solid lobe is very specific to the lobe profile/family. If you have a recommended lash range I wouldn't go any looser or you WILL pound the rollers/bearings out of it. Tight lash solid rollers can be easier on the lifters, but you end up with valve action more like a hydraulic style with a longer seat to seat. It's always a balance, the mild street roller stuff looks like a flat tappet profile compared to a newer radical HR profile.
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I ran a good size solid roller about five years ago and it didn't last on the street which is why I went back to HR. I ran the car for one summer and a lifter came apart and when we pulled the motor apart the lifter or what was left of it was jammed in the lifter bore.
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
An advantage with a hydraulic setup is you don't have the shock on the roller as you do with a lash-type valvetrain. An important thing to remember is the lash take-up ramp on the solid lobe is very specific to the lobe profile/family. If you have a recommended lash range I wouldn't go any looser or you WILL pound the rollers/bearings out of it. Tight lash solid rollers can be easier on the lifters, but you end up with valve action more like a hydraulic style with a longer seat to seat. It's always a balance, the mild street roller stuff looks like a flat tappet profile compared to a newer radical HR profile.
Once the wear rate is established (depends ALOT on specific lobe profile, lash and idle time), lifter wear is just a step in routine maintenance. I would take that any day over the balancing act with a healthy HR.
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I bought a Solid roller set up from someone recently and all valve train came with it, after reading this thread, I didnt realize how much these items were worth! And I feel much better about it as well. Ready to get my Solid going!
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Originally Posted by 05HD
Once the wear rate is established (depends ALOT on specific lobe profile, lash and idle time), lifter wear is just a step in routine maintenance. I would take that any day over the balancing act with a healthy HR.
Once the axles and bearings start getting oval (wear?) its just a matter of time before the thing comes apart.

I just don't like pin-oiled lifters becoming the latest and greatest regurgitated bullshit you see on the lt1 forums. Or morel lifters being touted as the end all be all for solid roller longevity problems. There's what, 6 solid roller LT1s on the forums right now, and 2 are street driven? C'mon.......



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