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Old May 14, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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well i'm selling my 94 z and debating whether to get a eagle 383 stroker kit or an ls1 or 6.0. which would be better to build up?
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what kind of car is this going into?
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Old May 14, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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what kind of car is this going into?
the one in my sig.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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If and when my LT decides it doesn't wanna run anymore, instead of going 383 I'm going to go built LQ4. Just my humble input.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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383 keep it LT1 or buy a catfish
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Old May 14, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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It all depends on your budget and goals. It will cost more to swap your car to LS but could be worth it in the long run. If you take a 6.0 LSX shortblock and 383 LTX shortblock and put 5k into both.. what will make more power and run better daily? Again, its personal preference to LSx/LTx and money.
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Originally Posted by rich5368
If and when my LT decides it doesn't wanna run anymore, instead of going 383 I'm going to go built LQ4. Just my humble input.
forgive me for for asking this dumb question (im 16) but how much power diff would be between stock ported and polished heads, gm 847,383 with all the supporting mods vs stock ported heads stock cubed ls1 or lq4 ms4 cam with all the supporting mods be?
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Old May 14, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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It all depends on your budget and goals. It will cost more to swap your car to LS but could be worth it in the long run. If you take a 6.0 LSX shortblock and 383 LTX shortblock and put 5k into both.. what will make more power and run better daily? Again, its personal preference to LSx/LTx and money.
In my head the 383 conf seems like it it would run faster but i've seen members sig where h/c/i cars are only running high 12's and i've seen full exhaust ls1 cars with a lid and dr's get that. from that standpoint the lsx sound better but would the setup i listed above not make comparable power?
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Old May 14, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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MAybe it was just mild cam and ported stock heads.. Guys with setups from AI are running low 11's to 9' with an Lt1
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Originally Posted by ELTEE1
In my head the 383 conf seems like it it would run faster but i've seen members sig where h/c/i cars are only running high 12's and i've seen full exhaust ls1 cars with a lid and dr's get that. from that standpoint the lsx sound better but would the setup i listed above not make comparable power?
I wouldn't go off track times. You see all kinds of numbers on this board. Bolt on I was running 13.1@108 with a 2.0 60ft. H/C 12.7@116 2.1 60ft with 440HP. You can make all kinds of power but if your not getting it to the ground it is useless.

The LS will make more power due to the better flowing heads. If you stay LT you need to buy the best flowing set of heads. It would probably be close though.
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It would would cost probably half as less to do a forged 383 than a H/C/I ls1
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Originally Posted by SSmoked1
I wouldn't go off track times. You see all kinds of numbers on this board. Bolt on I was running 13.1@108 with a 2.0 60ft. H/C 12.7@116 2.1 60ft with 440HP. You can make all kinds of power but if your not getting it to the ground it is useless.

The LS will make more power due to the better flowing heads. If you stay LT you need to buy the best flowing set of heads. It would probably be close though.
so there is hope for the old lt1

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It would would cost probably half as less to do a forged 383 than a H/C/I ls1
lt1 383 stroker kit around $2k from eagle+ shipping, good cam rr's = $700 heads 2k or more. 6.0 or ls1 1500-2000 + cam $700 bolton's $1000 would the cars be equal? for around the same price though? not sure how much the drivetrain swap is though.
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Build your own stroker with stock crank... That will save you about 600-800 bucks.. And with that money you can put a bigger cam and heads on it and be faster than an Ls1
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Originally Posted by SSmoked1
I wouldn't go off track times. You see all kinds of numbers on this board. Bolt on I was running 13.1@108 with a 2.0 60ft. H/C 12.7@116 2.1 60ft with 440HP. You can make all kinds of power but if your not getting it to the ground it is useless.

The LS will make more power due to the better flowing heads. If you stay LT you need to buy the best flowing set of heads. It would probably be close though.
440 rwhp? which h/c did you use?
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Build your own stroker with stock crank... That will save you about 600-800 bucks.. And with that money you can put a bigger cam and heads on it and be faster than an Ls1
sorry to keep asking questions but how could you build a 383 off stock crank and could you put a 100 wet shot to it?
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Originally Posted by ELTEE1
so there is hope for the old lt1



lt1 383 stroker kit around $2k from eagle+ shipping, good cam rr's = $700 heads 2k or more. 6.0 or ls1 1500-2000 + cam $700 bolton's $1000 would the cars be equal? for around the same price though? not sure how much the drivetrain swap is though.
Just stay LT. You will need a LS wiring harness/PCM/kmember/trans etc.. add about $500 for WTF items too. You can have an easy $5k into it. Even with a 383 your going to need clutch/stall then suspension and gears.
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Look on AI's site it has a section only for LT1 results with there products
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Old May 14, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Also you dont need a 383 do a forged 355 with stock crank and you can still make awesome numbers
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Old May 14, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaroking1996
Also you dont need a 383 do a forged 355 with stock crank and you can still make awesome numbers
the cars runs and is a dd, but i have an extra lt1 longbock laying aroun so i figured i'd stroke it
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If you want to save money than do a forged 355 with the stock crank.. The bottem end wont give you any extra power, its all in the valvetrain
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Old May 14, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaroking1996
If you want to save money than do a forged 355 with the stock crank.. The bottem end wont give you any extra power, its all in the valvetrain
ci = power all things being equal.

If you have two motors with the exact same top end but one has more cubic inches you will notice first off the torque curve occurs sooner in the higher cubed motor and the percentage of HP rises accordingly with the higher cubed motor.
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