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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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If I owned a repudable machine shop, I would never post on a forum "If he has a problem I'd be glad to refund him his money." because truth of the mater is I bet no one would be happy to give any monney back. On top of that if what we are hearing is true, than the shop over promessed and under delivered, and that is in no way the customers fault. Its stressfull when we put the effort/monney(also convincing the other half its a good idea) and things start to not be what we were told. that being said, a great engine builder is not alwase a good forum poster, so I think the best fix here is to get that 383 done and have it be a strong/ solid piece with good power. To me those things would make the wait somewhat rewarding.

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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I can assure you Corey will make things right. I have known him for a long time now and he doesn't scam anyone period. If a refund was offered and the guy wants it he will get it no hassle. I know it sucks that it has taken awhile to get but the end result is worth it. Every single engine that they have done that I have heard feedback from has far exceeded what the customer has wanted and got way more HP than the customer had hoped for.

Behind the scenes I am lucky enough to be local to them and stop by there weekly. I see a lot of what goes on there. There has been many issues behind the scenes that have put some things behind and really not Corey's fault. I can attest to at least 13 lt1's back in Feb that were in fact bored and ready for clearencing and splayed caps to be fitted and installed. So his email was spot on to the customer. What happened was the fixture for playing the mains broke and needed to be custom made. That was a set back. So while waiting on that to be made, they continued on doing other blocks. As that was going on, cranks had been ordered for those lt1's. The manufacturer gave Corey a bunch of promises and lies. So now because of them Corey looked like the bad guy. I know he spent hours on the phone trying to find the cranks everywhere including calling other builders to see if they had stock laying around. No one had them anywhere period. All the shops called were in the same boat. Call callies or scat and comfirm. At the same time ask them how many lt1 3.75 or 3.875 cranks they will be making by year end. You will be in shock. With the economy the way it is, they have lowered production and cut staff. That has now trickled down to the builders and their hands are tied waiting on product. Add to the fact the lt1 engine is a small percentage of these suppliers actual product, it isnt theory money maker so it gets put on the back burner.

It really bothers me seeing Corey getting thrown under the bus when he has done so much in an effort to make everyone happy. Could things have been handled different making the customer aware? Yes. He is human too. Everyone makes mistakes. It happens. No one is perfect. The comments regarding putting more effort into big dollar motors over say a budget build is crazy. Every single motor they build gets he same attention to detail as well as priority. First come first served no matter the cost of the build. These aren't guys that do that. Every customer is important.

You just don't get that type of effort or end product anymore. Those that do that are far and few between. These are true car guys and to be honest hardly make a proffit. They do it for us. They want you to be happy. They want to hear the feedback when you get in it and say holy ****. They are the real deal.

As far as sponsorship on this site. They dropped it. Anyone know the cost of sponsorship here? It ain't cheap. I know Corey doesn't want to add any more expense to your purchase of an engine though them just so he can be listed as a sponsor. Would it get more work? Yes and it did. Then comes backlog of way to many set ups being built. That then extends the time frame to get your engine built. These guys don't hire on people to work for them and do machining for them. They do it personally and don't trust anyone but himself to machine your engine exactly the way they do it. That comes with years and years of experience and add to that their machining is proprietary to them. They do it a certain way which BTW adds time to that process.

Given that i have seen it first hand there is no other shop I would let touch anything going into my car period. Thank you, I will patiently wait for mine and enjoy it when it comes. It's too bad you cant see first hand the frustration level of Corey and what he has had to deal with. It has gotten to the point where he is questioning if this is what he will continue doing in the future. I know it is bothering him beyond belief. This is a shame because if he were to stop doing this and move on, we would loose one hell of a builder and car guy doing this for us.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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X2 here i have dealt with corey before.. Its worth the wait for what he puts in
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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i can see where the supplier issues can be a big problem, i think everyone has ran into that, tough to build an engine if the crank isnt there yet lol
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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I thought a motor=electric and an engine= internal combustion?
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Yeah yeah yeah..... and there are auto correct things wrong in my post as well. Took some time typing that crap out on my phone.... the intent of my post is there though.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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i cant spell either if you read threw any of the stuff i have posted, i gettcha though, and it is cool to see people that have had good experiences with them come forward, i feel it cleans there name a bunch
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Old May 27, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by maxplusten
I dont like where this thread is going so i wont say anything after this. Sometimes if you want a quality product you have to pay the price and wait for it. As stated above this stuff dosent happen overnight. Mr Clayton has stated himself, LT1's are not his main buisness. Race motors are, he dose the LT1 thing on the side since he himself use to be an LT1 guy. I wouldnt have gone to Corey had it not been for there stand up reputation and standing in the LTx community. I understand getting frustrated about the time frame, trust me, i have been too, but as long as Clayton makes it right then they are square with me.
i don't care if lt1's aren't his main job, i know like two weeks ago he had a shitload of them for sale on ebay. if he has had a guy sitting since november and is still lining up engines he cant produce, that is bad business. this is only looking worse and worse on them. i would be through the roof with this guy even if he is the best that would end it all for me. their isn't an excuse for this.. its all bullshit. get the guy his engine or a refund with interest.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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How many times can it be said... THERE ARE NO STROKER SCAT OR CALLIES CRANKS IN THE COUNTRY. cranks will arrive at scat next week to which scat will do their thing and ship out. There is a large pallet heading to Clayton racing. He bought all he could get his hands on including for his eBay sales. Blocks are ready waiting on cranks. Takes him no time to put them together after balancing.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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Clayton Racing built my last engine, it took almost nine months to get it. I had to drive and meet him half way to pick it up. When I asked about it he told me he will refund my money minus stocking fees. I'm not on here to bash him, he does take his time. I was very pissed off one it took way longer to get my motor and two I have to drive over 300 miles to meet him to pick it up and he didn't give me any thing off. Which also pissed me off. Due to the time length the car sat for a very long time. He did return my pone calls when I called and inquired about the build.

No the good the motor once installed and tuned ran like a raped ape. Everything he said the motor will do it does plus. His work is definitely top notch not so much customer service. He also recommended other parts to compliment the new set up, he even offered to come down and tune the car for me.

So for me the feeling is mixed, he definitely knows his **** when it comes to the motor he built me. There was other parts that I needed and no questions asked he ordered and sent them to me. I would use him again to build another motor if I have the time to wait on it.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Sorry to derail the **** parade, but ALL shops are backed up right now. Stroker cranks have been a PITA to get your hands on for months, and it is a very busy time of year.

I would rather take more time and have a badass finished build the has been proven to exceed expectations then get a quick drive-thru mechanic to throw some chinese junk together with no regard to balance and clearances that will blow after a few trips down the track.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Whatever, I bought a forged 1piece 3.75 eagle unit on eBay and it literally showed up next day no extra charge "warehouse was in same state and zone" via ups. Now what's the excuse? Let me guess, "scats better"and "worth waiting on" over an availible forged eagle? Lol
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Old May 27, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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It's an eagle I'm not surprized those are available at this time.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Just to quench some misinformation..................

John's car is a gen1 sbc, not an LT1.


Corey did call and things are looking good for it to be done very soon. He's offered up some pointers about what parts to get to compliment the build as well. He's tossing in a spider and dogbones for the lifters. So that's nice of him.

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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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I hope this all works out for you. I want them to build my next engine but it wouldn't be for a while. As for the UTI and Wyotech schools, I agree they are EXTREMELY overrated. You can go to your local tech school and learn more and pay a lot less.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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Glad it got worked out.

As for the eagle comment..... haha, you can have that junk. And yes there are tons of eagle cranks out there for sale dirt cheap..... there is a reason for it. Not gonna put one in my block, not even if it was just a simple rebuild.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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I have a couple Callies Dragonslayer 3.750 cranks in stock.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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How about a 3.875?
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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpack
How about a 3.875?
Nope Sorry . But Callies has a Magnum in stock but would require a one piece seal adapter. Very common to use the adapter.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Z8'S
I have a couple Callies Dragonslayer 3.750 cranks in stock.
That's a really nice crank, correct me if I am wrong, but the difference between a dragon slayer and a race master is the coating Callies uses?
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