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Old 07-07-2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by T/ALT1
Hey if any of you guys having trouble sourcing a 383 rotating assembly for an LT1, I have the complete shortblock from my car that ran 10.80@127.8mph N/A with only 15 passes for a killer price. Only reason for selling is moving up to a Procharged BBC. Shoot me a PM if interested. Later
Too bad you probably wont have this around winter time I would seriously buy it.
Old 07-07-2011 | 05:59 PM
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as stated before, pm me, corey probably wont deny any of it and me and him are straight but the point is if you want it done fast hes not your guy
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So the only complaint then is it took a long time to get? Sent you a pm, let me know how the engine checked out.
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Not my only complaint.I'll pm you when I get home
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I'd love to hear more about what's going on with this shop. My freshly built motor with about 1,500 miles on it gave out on me last night. I'm currently looking into picking up one of Clayton's 383 or 396 short blocks since they seem to have more satisfied customers than disgruntled ones. Any updates on what's been going on?
Old 08-21-2011 | 07:04 PM
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Update:

I picked the motor up with my friend John on July 23rd. 7 months and 30 days after purchase.

Pro's:

1. The motor looked very well built
2. He used a later model truck block or ZZ4 block (you could tell by the timing chain bolt pattern)
3. He threw in an engine cradle
4. He upgraded the main caps to splayed caps.

Con's:

1. He forgot to include the camshaft ( he did send it out a week later)
2. He forgot to include the timing chain (John just went out and bought one)
3. He forgot to include the spider and dogbones(John had a spare out of a 305 roller motor)

Right after John got the motor we put it on the stand and the emails started about not having a camshaft. Corey said it would need a small base circle cam ( he said that a few times) and that he'd get it out soon. About a week went by and then the cam arrived. I was impressed by the specs, off of the top of my head it's 246/256 with lift near .600" (again off the top of my head). I put a set of calipers on it because it didn't look like a small base circle, and it's not, lol. The calipers said 1.0something, lol. That's stock size, no big deal, it clears just fine. Not sure why he said it needed one.

We just got it running on tuesday. Fired right up, and took about 5 minutes to get the carb and timing dialed enough to drive it. ZERO blue smoke, which is good. The rings seemed to need hardly any time to seat. John runs a decent sized street tire, and it lights them up rather easy. It will get stronger as the miles rack up. It's still on the rich side (to be safe) but not rich enough to wash the cylinders or foul the plugs. It needs the idle turned up 100rpm or so too. Here's a video from his fb account, not sure if it will be viewable or not:

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2109082800361
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update on mine as well: Motors in the car, started up great and runs amazing. No complaints now... it was worth the wait. Gets tuned this thursday
Old 08-21-2011 | 10:17 PM
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Glad to hear things are turning out well for you guys. I'm still pretty pissed about my new motor taking a dump last night. Hopefully I can recoup some of that money from the shop that put my motor together. Either way, I'll definitely get one of Clayton's motors. Hopefully things will continue to go well for you guys. Annnnnnd if not, I'm sure we'll hear all of the details.
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vid dont work and yes Claytons shop is very good. They take there time when building but waiting to long will **** a customer off.
Old 08-21-2011 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by joelster
Update:

I picked the motor up with my friend John on July 23rd. 7 months and 30 days after purchase.
~8 Months after payment, outrageous. I'd have chosen someone else. I don't care how busy you are, or how many people are in front of you. Thats a loooong time.

Why do you think LS1tech turbo sponsors drop like flys? Because they do exactly this but people fight back, the shop goes under and lost with the **** winds.
Old 08-21-2011 | 11:48 PM
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All the local shops here have wait times of 6+ months, the good ones anyways. I had mine in there for 10 months with no work even done to it, so I sent a pissed off wife down there and it was done the next day lol
Old 08-22-2011 | 12:15 AM
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Glad to hear it all worked out guys. Should have mine in a couple days, had a few snags but nothing major. Nothing to do with Clayton Racing. This will be my second engine from them and I'm sure it will produce more than I hoped for. First one blew away my expectations. If anyone wants to see the quality and attention to detail in one of their engines, see my project reaper thread in this section.

As far as wait time goes, pretty much every good shop this year was on a long backlog. Mostly due to supply and demand from manufacturers. Supply was down yet builds were way up. Sucks to be on the consumer end, but as long as one gets what they wanted, it works out in the end.

As mine gets running I will post some video. Hopefully others will as well. I am glad you guys came back on here and posted up. Corey builds one hell of an engine.

Here is a nice little ls7 they built and put in a 7k mile SS I was drooling over on Saturday at the dyno.

Old 08-22-2011 | 10:09 PM
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Thats why i will never go with this "company" CR. They ripped off my buddy. He was left with a engine that barely ran. And he had to put together the front of it on his own even though he paid to have it completely ready. 5 of his oil pan bolts were loose and 2 were missing. the engine had knock within the first 100 miles of run time. Horrible and it took 8 months to get it. called in April and didnt get it until the end of December. it doesnt take that long to build a damn engine. Lets be real here.

wtf
Old 08-22-2011 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2004 Red GT-OH
Thats why i will never go with this "company" CR. They ripped off my buddy. He was left with a engine that barely ran. And he had to put together the front of it on his own even though he paid to have it completely ready. 5 of his oil pan bolts were loose and 2 were missing. the engine had knock within the first 100 miles of run time. Horrible and it took 8 months to get it. called in April and didnt get it until the end of December. it doesnt take that long to build a damn engine. Lets be real here.

wtf
If he had to install the "front" of the engine (timing set/cover I'm assuming?) then why didn't he tighten the oil pan bolts - if he finished the build then he installed them .

Probably leaked out its oil and toasted the bearings.
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Originally Posted by carlos64030
Glad to hear things are turning out well for you guys. I'm still pretty pissed about my new motor taking a dump last night. Hopefully I can recoup some of that money from the shop that put my motor together. Either way, I'll definitely get one of Clayton's motors. Hopefully things will continue to go well for you guys. Annnnnnd if not, I'm sure we'll hear all of the details.
You're going to go with someone that takes 8 months to build a motor? The intelligence on this forum is overwhelming.
Old 08-23-2011 | 10:25 AM
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^ Agreed. I could outsource all the machine work, and still build a motor within 2 months, while working a full time job.
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ive had a motor take three months and i was pissed...this last one took 3 weeks. The difference is some guys work alot and others dont.
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Originally Posted by draggin97s10
ive had a motor take three months and i was pissed...this last one took 3 weeks. The difference is some guys work alot and others dont.
That's kinda a generic statement don't you think? Could mean the shop has no work and lots of free time on their hands. Could mean that it is a big shop employing lots of engine builders and gets them all out the door quick.

People ought to read more forums and see all the compliants about waiting on engines this year. Seems to be a common theme this past season. Maybe all of them are just out to screw everyone. I have said it many times in this thread. Supply of parts way down, demand high.

Here is a message I got from Scat while waiting on my crank for more than 6 months of empty promises and lies from Scat..... after receiving this it still took a month to get it. So before placing blame or judgement on a builder, all the facts should be known. I saw first hand over 20 machined blocks sitting and waiting on parts that were on back order. Only way an engine jumped up in its place in line was if the engines parts were able to be found. Some people even got better parts as a result of waiting just to make the customer happy and the inconvenience of the longer wait at no charge. The builder can only go by what the supplier tells them. If the supplier gives a line of b.s. which in turn is passed on to the buyer, it then in turn makes the builder look bad. Such is the case with Scat and my parts. Believe me I was more than pissed about it and I went directly to the source, not the builder. Even now there is shortage on cranks to other shops.... know why? Corey bought every available stroker crank from scat and Callies he could get his hands on. He even paid premium pricing just so he had them.

Again, I will stand behind Clayton Racing and Corey. I won't even tell you how long my engine has been there but I will say it has been longer than anyone that has posted on here that got theirs way earlier than me. The engines that have been received I can tell you their orders came in long after mine was already there. I have zero issue with how long mine has taken because I know the final results.

Here is what I received from Scat after a nasty Facebook post I put up on their wall that they took down....

Jim,
When you have questions about an order, it is much more efficient to just pick up the phone and call us.

We have been in business for over 45 years and one reason for that is our commitment to customer service.

Our fill rate is over 95% on thousands of cranks, rods and rotating assemblies, but once in awhile we run into a supply problem, which is the case with this part number

As it turns out these forgings are due at our facility tomorrow and we will process and ship as soon as we run them through the shop.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact you engine builder, or you are welcome to contact us direct with any specific questions.

Our sales person for you Engine Builder is Brian McCullough, 310. 370. 5501 x. 130
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Originally Posted by Jpack
That's kinda a generic statement don't you think? Could mean the shop has no work and lots of free time on their hands. Could mean that it is a big shop employing lots of engine builders and gets them all out the door quick.

People ought to read more forums and see all the compliants about waiting on engines this year. Seems to be a common theme this past season. Maybe all of them are just out to screw everyone. I have said it many times in this thread. Supply of parts way down, demand high.

Here is a message I got from Scat while waiting on my crank for more than 6 months of empty promises and lies from Scat..... after receiving this it still took a month to get it. So before placing blame or judgement on a builder, all the facts should be known. I saw first hand over 20 machined blocks sitting and waiting on parts that were on back order. Only way an engine jumped up in its place in line was if the engines parts were able to be found. Some people even got better parts as a result of waiting just to make the customer happy and the inconvenience of the longer wait at no charge. The builder can only go by what the supplier tells them. If the supplier gives a line of b.s. which in turn is passed on to the buyer, it then in turn makes the builder look bad. Such is the case with Scat and my parts. Believe me I was more than pissed about it and I went directly to the source, not the builder. Even now there is shortage on cranks to other shops.... know why? Corey bought every available stroker crank from scat and Callies he could get his hands on. He even paid premium pricing just so he had them.

Again, I will stand behind Clayton Racing and Corey. I won't even tell you how long my engine has been there but I will say it has been longer than anyone that has posted on here that got theirs way earlier than me. The engines that have been received I can tell you their orders came in long after mine was already there. I have zero issue with how long mine has taken because I know the final results.

Here is what I received from Scat after a nasty Facebook post I put up on their wall that they took down....

Jim,
When you have questions about an order, it is much more efficient to just pick up the phone and call us.

We have been in business for over 45 years and one reason for that is our commitment to customer service.

Our fill rate is over 95% on thousands of cranks, rods and rotating assemblies, but once in awhile we run into a supply problem, which is the case with this part number

As it turns out these forgings are due at our facility tomorrow and we will process and ship as soon as we run them through the shop.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact you engine builder, or you are welcome to contact us direct with any specific questions.

Our sales person for you Engine Builder is Brian McCullough, 310. 370. 5501 x. 130
yes indeed it was a generic statement. Burlington Performance in KC is were this one was done. Good guys and they do a majority of the circle track motors around town, dirt and pave. Theyve done quiet a few motors for us. Its a father and son operation. Sorry for the generic statement. Also ive never had a builder deal with ordering the parts, i have the parts in hand when dropping everything off.
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Originally Posted by 2004 Red GT-OH
Thats why i will never go with this "company" CR. They ripped off my buddy. He was left with a engine that barely ran. And he had to put together the front of it on his own even though he paid to have it completely ready. 5 of his oil pan bolts were loose and 2 were missing. the engine had knock within the first 100 miles of run time. Horrible and it took 8 months to get it. called in April and didnt get it until the end of December. it doesnt take that long to build a damn engine. Lets be real here.

wtf
Hmm, was that this past year? Tell me about the engine. Was it a complete engine with heads etc? What is your friends name? I'd really like to hear more about this. How was the engine shipped?


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