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Old 05-31-2011, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Grumpy Pants Greg wants to use your car as an example. I figured this would be the perfect time to sell LE's product. What I recall from both graphs is the power curve and numbers being basically the exact same and then seeing a vid of a few runs and the best mph was approx 114mph? Am I wrong?
You are wrong. At the shootout it trapped 116+ with all the issues and the only other time I had it out went 11.7@118 on the same set up. The only time it ever went 114 was if I missed a gear or something.
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This always happens! The same arguments all the time this has nothing to do with the guys thread. No wonder why everyone gets rid of these cars.
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
You are wrong. At the shootout it trapped 116+ with all the issues and the only other time I had it out went 11.7@118 on the same set up. The only time it ever went 114 was if I missed a gear or something.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:26 PM
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Theres a thread of all the 2010 shootouts qualifying times you can see it there. I dont have any good vid of the last time. Just 2 showing how the car was leaving. One spun bad and the other bogged and fell on its face. Then the camera died.
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Well I am still convinced you are not a shining example regarding the LE brand. The only two that impress me thus far is BOLO and Javier. Hopefully you can get **** squared away.
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My God you're ******* stupid. The thread I linked had avid of him trapping 118+
Old 05-31-2011, 08:03 PM
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People need to realize it doesn't take 396 Cubic inches and a Solid roller to run 11's

There are countless people who port there own heads and get great times person on another thread with home ported heads and XFI cam is DEEP into the 11's with a boat of a car. People LE and AI were once not existent and guess what??? PEOPLE STILL WENT FAST
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Originally Posted by gregrob
My God you're ******* stupid. The thread I linked had avid of him trapping 118+
And here are some vids after the cam swap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGMUy58BYas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ex_J...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/josephflynn00...22/E8_tsQeefcg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N2t4...er_profilepage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwCTg...ature=youtu.be

So aside from your blazing rage and emotion, how is it you can tell me this is a good example to use?
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No rage or emotion. He obviously had issues afterward. Do you want a cookie? How can someone with as painfully slow a solid roller 396 as you have be the judge of anything performace wise? The difference between you and I is that you only know what you've read on the internet. No matter how long you've been around doesn't change that fact. You have had one shitty combo this whole time andarw arrogant enough to go on believing it is better than everything else out there. Have you ever used Craig at GTP? But yet you recommend him.

I don't recommend lloyd because of somethon I read, or heard. I recommend him because I have BUILT cars with his top ends. I have seen how they perform and I know that he can help anyone with a stock short block achieve just as impressive of results as any company out there, and better than most.

The fct that Lloyd is an awesome person and would bend over backwards to help anyone is an added bonus his work speaks for itself. He has had issues just like every company yet he is still swamped with work during race season. He must be doing somethig right.

I know my post is full of bad grammar and I don't care, so don't bother bringig it up.

Im off to tune some real cars, at a real track and collect some real data. While you sit here in lala land and hypothesize about what you "think" you know.
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I'll go with blinding emotional rage possibly fueled by alcohol and a nervous twitch which would explain the typographical errors.
Lots of accusations here. Nothing I haven't seen before from the LE loyal. The only difference is you haven't taken it to a personal level as of yet. We'll see though. What I have discovered from those like you who go bat **** crazy whenever an opinion is offered is you already have your agenda set and cannot be reasoned with. The only thing I will say is I have never made my car out to be anything more than it is. All I have ever stated is fact. I challenge you to find any post I've made where I say it's the cat's meow and the bee's knees. I have personally seen direct results from LE and GTP and would pick GTP every single time. Remember, it's an opinion based on personal information. I've always found it hilarious an opinion threatens the LE loyal this much.

Now, can you stop deflecting and answer the question how achotrod's car can be used as an example as to how wonderful LE is?

P.S. Can you tune my PCM to be real, greg"grumpy pants/"keeping it real!"rob? Perhaps that's why I am slow.

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When I finally work all of the bugs out of my ignition system and get my 355 running correctly my little hotcam le1 head car will do 11s; maybe high 11s but 11s.
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
lol what?? You never argue with your brothers/sisters?

SS rrr, Im sure you can find them. The car made a few more peak HP, was down a tad until about 4k then was almost identical until peak HP then newer cam holds on longer in the end. This cam also drives 100% better as well on the street. Again Im sure you can find the graphs on here if you really want to see them. The only thing I do agree with you about the newer cam is I thought there would be a bigger gain with it. In the end the above is what happened.
What I can tell ya is ask anyone that has seen my car run in person(lots of guys on this site) and ask them how bad the car was leaving. The car was just falling on its face do to the tire and suspension set up. You can also see it in all the vids since I changed out the stock suspension and put on the 28s. Its not like Im making this **** up.
Of course. i was just being a smartass. I love when everyone goes back and forth. **** cracks me up.
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Damn Mike, I really left on your *** in that second vid.
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LOL SSRRR that is NOT my car except the 2nd vid in which the car clearly fell on its face.
The Red formy in the other vids was a Lingenfelter 383. LMAO!

Yes Jeff you did. I was was still learning the new set up and LL and it was the first time testing all year.You know I can cut a good light most the time.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR


So aside from your blazing rage and emotion, how is it you can tell me this is a good example to use?
Because the vids are a LINGENFELTER 383 LMAO
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Mike's car has a WS6 hood on it and is not in three of the vids posted.
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lol I know funny huh. If someone is gonna call me out they should at least put ME in the linked vids and use a clean run. Looks to me like the one run he did post pops the front up then bogs and just falls dead on its face. I would say the car did not like the QTP 28s one bit on motor.
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
lol I know funny huh. If someone is gonna call me out they should at least put ME in the linked vids and use a clean run. Looks to me like the one run he did post pops the front up then bogs and just falls dead on its face. I would say the car did not like the QTP 28s one bit on motor.


Mike, if you were going to stay na I would run a 4.56 gear in your car with the 28's and that thing would rip otherwise I would stay with a 26in slick. Bowling Green track hooks your going to have to leave at 6,000 on your motor passes.


Never mind I guess your going to spray it this year.
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One red Pontiac in a vid like that looks like another. Especially since the ET's were so close. Whatever the case may be, it doesn't change my opinion, son. Get your **** squared away. Stop with the stories and represent.


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