Stock LT1 crank weight?
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I don't think they have much in the way of warranties because way too much is beyond their control, BUT if you can show them the part was defective the bigger companies seem to treat people well..
A local had a base level crank from one of the big companies crack and he caught it before failure. When he called and ordered the replacement he ordered a higher level crank and they threw in some significant upgrades besides and a good price.
A local had a base level crank from one of the big companies crack and he caught it before failure. When he called and ordered the replacement he ordered a higher level crank and they threw in some significant upgrades besides and a good price.
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My 396 almost made that on w/ a carb and about 2k less rpms. I'm running some small Dart Pro 1s that have been worked over and a very streetable cam.
What kind of oil system are you going to run?
How much do you want to spend on the crankshaft?
Who is going to machine this thing for you?
Are you going to buy front and rear mains?
How often are you going to check the springs?
What kind of driving?
Honestly you need to spend big money on the top end when you want to run in the 8k range. You are going about this build the hard way, I would look to build a lower RPM high TQ motor, this is your first time you dont need a money pit. You aren't going to want to spin a 410ci to 8k, 355-396ci is were you might want to keep it.
High end dirt track motors are easily 20k, once you start putting Ti in a motor the price gets ridiculous. 1200+ for Ti valves at least that for a shaft setup. You are going to have a large shop bill, none of these parts can just be slapped together.
What kind of oil system are you going to run?
How much do you want to spend on the crankshaft?
Who is going to machine this thing for you?
Are you going to buy front and rear mains?
How often are you going to check the springs?
What kind of driving?
Honestly you need to spend big money on the top end when you want to run in the 8k range. You are going about this build the hard way, I would look to build a lower RPM high TQ motor, this is your first time you dont need a money pit. You aren't going to want to spin a 410ci to 8k, 355-396ci is were you might want to keep it.
High end dirt track motors are easily 20k, once you start putting Ti in a motor the price gets ridiculous. 1200+ for Ti valves at least that for a shaft setup. You are going to have a large shop bill, none of these parts can just be slapped together.
Oil system: dry sump maybe but what would you recommend?
Machining will be done a shop in west Miami i know from a friend. they specialize in GM engines.
Rear and Front mains: Yes
Checking the springs: Often im obsessed with keeping my engine healthy. have 205k on my stock LT1 and still running strong. 5W-30 synthetic mobile 1 every 2000 miles. spark plugs change every 5,000 miles.
And driving like i said above street/strip
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Oil system: dry sump maybe but what would you recommend?
Machining will be done a shop in west Miami i know from a friend. they specialize in GM engines.
Rear and Front mains: Yes
Checking the springs: Often im obsessed with keeping my engine healthy. have 205k on my stock LT1 and still running strong. 5W-30 synthetic mobile 1 every 2000 miles. spark plugs change every 5,000 miles.
And driving like i said above street/strip
Machining will be done a shop in west Miami i know from a friend. they specialize in GM engines.
Rear and Front mains: Yes
Checking the springs: Often im obsessed with keeping my engine healthy. have 205k on my stock LT1 and still running strong. 5W-30 synthetic mobile 1 every 2000 miles. spark plugs change every 5,000 miles.
And driving like i said above street/strip
Carl likes to use the Titan pumps and the Stef's pans. A really nice setup for a wet sump. He is using Oliver rods with Mahle pistons(close to what I have). With the RPM range you are looking at you are going to have to consider a SR setup, with this a shaft setup is a good option. The caps will have to be ordered (pro-gram would work) and the machine shop will have to check them out.
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Try something like this
Carl likes to use the Titan pumps and the Stef's pans. A really nice setup for a wet sump. He is using Oliver rods with Mahle pistons(close to what I have). With the RPM range you are looking at you are going to have to consider a SR setup, with this a shaft setup is a good option. The caps will have to be ordered (pro-gram would work) and the machine shop will have to check them out.
Carl likes to use the Titan pumps and the Stef's pans. A really nice setup for a wet sump. He is using Oliver rods with Mahle pistons(close to what I have). With the RPM range you are looking at you are going to have to consider a SR setup, with this a shaft setup is a good option. The caps will have to be ordered (pro-gram would work) and the machine shop will have to check them out.
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It doesn't matter how much metal you put underneath the block if you have detonation it won't last. The strongest LT1 bottom you can make would be a 2 bolt block that is converted to splayed 4 bolt bottom. I'm only running a 4 bolt vette block. No LT1's have 6 bolt, only LS1's.
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Listen to the guys experienced above. High rpm LTX is nothing new. My first one spun 8k back in 05. My second is about to be completed. Ive pretty much turned it into a race car that is barely driveable.
My only advice is if you have an F-body, go LSX. I would have. I have a c4 vette and the lsx is not exactly a bolt in needing too many custom fabb'd parts. I could make a ton more power with less exotic parts with a lower cost if I was able to use lsx.
My only advice is if you have an F-body, go LSX. I would have. I have a c4 vette and the lsx is not exactly a bolt in needing too many custom fabb'd parts. I could make a ton more power with less exotic parts with a lower cost if I was able to use lsx.
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Lol no offense taken, i know im asking basic easy questions that i should know already but just want to make sure. Im fresh meat a 19 year old with inheritance money 50K with my 1994 Z28 my Mother owned since the year it rolled off the line. shes the first owner of the car and still runs like new so im going to treat it with a new build. im ready for a build. im just asking you professional LT guys who have been racing for years. Ill be posting pics of the car soon!
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If you have the cash and are willing to spend it I would get an engine quote from Advanced Induction, they could handle this and do it very right the first time.
Setting up the rest of the car will be expensive too though when spending it all at once I think most would be shocked how fast money goes away.
Most of us hide the shock by doing things more slowly.
Setting up the rest of the car will be expensive too though when spending it all at once I think most would be shocked how fast money goes away.
Most of us hide the shock by doing things more slowly.
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A friend recently put together a 8500rpm gen 1 with a 3.750" stroke, ended up with a Callies Magnum I believe and he has a hardon for Lunati ProMod rods so he used those with I believe custom CP pistons.
As of last night he was in second place for Dragweek smallblock NA so it is holding up fine.
As of last night he was in second place for Dragweek smallblock NA so it is holding up fine.
i see 8100-8200 regularly and the motor has been at 8500 before by mistake when the car wouldn't shift........im runing a lightened callies magnum with oliver billets
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heres a peek at the bottom end.......
![](http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad38/quik95lt1/IMG_20110312_183214.jpg)
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10k is too much to waste on a shortblock it cost me about half of that to do mine with billet main caps and everything.........if you aren't doing your own work i can see a bit more than that but still 10k is crazy........
LTX...,
like capricemgr said above an AI top end will be the way to go to make the power with the budget you ahve.........if you like PM me I do street/race engine designing/building and I can set you up with a good solid engine and Advanced Induction Top End to meet your goals.....
Mike
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i see 8100-8200 regularly and the motor has been at 8500 before by mistake when the car wouldn't shift........im runing a lightened callies magnum with oliver billets
and a SRP Pro Series Lightweight Piston and ring package ![Secret2](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/secret.gif)
heres a peek at the bottom end.......
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...312_183214.jpg
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...301_201848.jpg
10k is too much to waste on a shortblock it cost me about half of that to do mine with billet main caps and everything.........if you aren't doing your own work i can see a bit more than that but still 10k is crazy........
LTX...,
like capricemgr said above an AI top end will be the way to go to make the power with the budget you ahve.........if you like PM me I do street/race engine designing/building and I can set you up with a good solid engine and Advanced Induction Top End to meet your goals.....
Mike
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heres a peek at the bottom end.......
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...312_183214.jpg
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...301_201848.jpg
10k is too much to waste on a shortblock it cost me about half of that to do mine with billet main caps and everything.........if you aren't doing your own work i can see a bit more than that but still 10k is crazy........
LTX...,
like capricemgr said above an AI top end will be the way to go to make the power with the budget you ahve.........if you like PM me I do street/race engine designing/building and I can set you up with a good solid engine and Advanced Induction Top End to meet your goals.....
Mike
Damn, thats a nice bottom end. you have any videos of your LT1? and how much total was your build including wiring, tuning, ect. btw what tranny you running?
Thanks
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how much?? i have no clue and more than i even want to know lol...........all of the work was done in house short of boring and balancing and other engine machine work.......tuning was also done by me......as well as a full wire harness for the ECU i designed
im runing a 4L60E in mine with a Vigilante Lockup Converter........i like driving my car a bit still.........
i do have a whole crap laod of videos......
http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/vid...=2104142531627
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4I5gy0-dTs
scroll to like 3:35 in this video for the 10.01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxb1I...el_video_title
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how much?? i have no clue and more than i even want to know lol...........all of the work was done in house short of boring and balancing and other engine machine work.......tuning was also done by me......as well as a full wire harness for the ECU i designed
im runing a 4L60E in mine with a Vigilante Lockup Converter........i like driving my car a bit still.........
i do have a whole crap laod of videos......
http www facebook com #!/video/video.php?v=2104142531627
http www youtube com watch?v=f4I5gy0-dTs
scroll to like 3:35 in this video for the 10.01
http www youtube.com watch?v=Qxb1Inh62Y8
im runing a 4L60E in mine with a Vigilante Lockup Converter........i like driving my car a bit still.........
i do have a whole crap laod of videos......
http www facebook com #!/video/video.php?v=2104142531627
http www youtube com watch?v=f4I5gy0-dTs
scroll to like 3:35 in this video for the 10.01
http www youtube.com watch?v=Qxb1Inh62Y8
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here's my buildup maybe its something you will like ![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...ics-motor.html
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