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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Default Stock LT1 crank weight?

I have 10K to spend on a new rotating assembly and looking at crower they seem to have good quality products. does anyone know who has the strongest/lightest crank? i really like crower titanium rods but there 5k just for a set. looking to spin 8200rpms at max. so i need a very light assembly. 355ci

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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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I believe the stock cast crank weighs in the neiborhood of 53#.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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What the **** are you building that needs a $10,000 rotating assembly?!
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
What the **** are you building that needs a $10,000 rotating assembly?!
Maybe a promod lol. And I thought I got carried away buying compstars.

Why not pick up a set of oliver rods?
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 97Z28SS
I believe the stock cast crank weighs in the neiborhood of 53#.
Yep. I just weighed one out of one of my Stocker motors. It is 52.6 lbs.

If I were building a high rpm motor, I would start with the lightest pistons and pins that will survive the combination. The stock crank will most likely live N/A, but the crank is a great dollar/HP place to save weight. For the rods I would skip the titanium and buy the lightest forged rods that have 7/16" rod bolts.

Keep in mind that engine components are like anything, you get what you pay for. If you can't afford good stuff change your goals or wait.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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A friend recently put together a 8500rpm gen 1 with a 3.750" stroke, ended up with a Callies Magnum I believe and he has a hardon for Lunati ProMod rods so he used those with I believe custom CP pistons.

As of last night he was in second place for Dragweek smallblock NA so it is holding up fine.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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100 bucks says you just got back from deployment..
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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100 bucks says you just got back from deployment..
LOL...+1 I too have noticed those in the military like to spend major cash on fast cars and crotch rockets IMMEDIATELY when they get home.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
What the **** are you building that needs a $10,000 rotating assembly?!
LMFAO!! Seriously though, if you are going to spend that much just on the rotating assembly, what is the total $ amount going to be with heads and the rest? $15-20??? Hell you could pick up a complete LS7 crate motor for $14k. With a few boltons it would probably destroy even a high $$ n/a 355 LTX build. Just something to think about.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Oliver Rods
Callies Crank
Diamond pistons.
May not be the lightest but it will be strong as hell. We used these when we were racing NSCA back in the day.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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LOL...+1 I too have noticed those in the military like to spend major cash on fast cars and crotch rockets IMMEDIATELY when they get home.
Trust me I get it, it's what we think about while we're doing our job.
But most guys on post around here, have more money than since.
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Well im planning to build a high RPM LT1. putting down 500fwhp with AI 215cc heads and mild SR cam. 8200rpm im gonna need a hell of a rotating assembly for it to last. this is my first motor build and im having a friend help me. but any suggests? i know i can make the same power for less but i just ****** love high rpm chevys.
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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I doubt that you will have to turn it that hard to make that kind of HP. What will you be doing with the motor in question?

Originally Posted by GREGG 97Z
LMFAO!! Seriously though, if you are going to spend that much just on the rotating assembly, what is the total $ amount going to be with heads and the rest? $15-20??? Hell you could pick up a complete LS7 crate motor for $14k. With a few boltons it would probably destroy even a high $$ n/a 355 LTX build. Just something to think about.

To do a good LS7 conversion costs a fortune. You are leaving out headers, computer, engine mounts, and a ton of other stuff. Besides, he couldn't run the LTX Shootout if he did that!
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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I also believe he'll need more head and cam than "AI 215 cnc and a mild sr" to spin 8200 rpm and he didn't mention shaftmounted rockers and very very good valvesprings which will also be needed. By the way OP what cubic inch engine are you thinking of building a 355 or something bigger?
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 97Z28SS
I also believe he'll need more head and cam than "AI 215 cnc and a mild sr" to spin 8200 rpm and he didn't mention shaftmounted rockers and very very good valvesprings which will also be needed. By the way OP what cubic inch engine are you thinking of building a 355 or something bigger?
I agree on the cam to turn the rpm's. You could do a valve job on the stock heads and add good 1.94"/1.50" valves, valve springs, retainers, and locks and make that HP number. It all depends on what the OP intends to do with the end product.
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jallen100
Oliver Rods
Callies Crank
Diamond pistons.
May not be the lightest but it will be strong as hell. We used these when we were racing NSCA back in the day.
well a callies magnum Xl crank would cut some of the weight down and it'd still strong
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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My Crower crank and rods only ran about 3,500.
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 97Z28SS
I also believe he'll need more head and cam than "AI 215 cnc and a mild sr" to spin 8200 rpm and he didn't mention shaftmounted rockers and very very good valvesprings which will also be needed. By the way OP what cubic inch engine are you thinking of building a 355 or something bigger?
A 355ci btw just curious what is the biggest you can get out of an LT1 block? i heard a 410ci is about the biggest.

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My Crower crank and rods only ran about 3,500.
really? so crower is a no no?
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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Crower is a no no only if you want to use cheap made in china ****
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LTX
Well im planning to build a high RPM LT1. putting down 500fwhp with AI 215cc heads and mild SR cam. 8200rpm im gonna need a hell of a rotating assembly for it to last.
My 396 almost made that on w/ a carb and about 2k less rpms. I'm running some small Dart Pro 1s that have been worked over and a very streetable cam.


What kind of oil system are you going to run?
How much do you want to spend on the crankshaft?
Who is going to machine this thing for you?
Are you going to buy front and rear mains?
How often are you going to check the springs?
What kind of driving?


Honestly you need to spend big money on the top end when you want to run in the 8k range. You are going about this build the hard way, I would look to build a lower RPM high TQ motor, this is your first time you dont need a money pit. You aren't going to want to spin a 410ci to 8k, 355-396ci is were you might want to keep it.
High end dirt track motors are easily 20k, once you start putting Ti in a motor the price gets ridiculous. 1200+ for Ti valves at least that for a shaft setup. You are going to have a large shop bill, none of these parts can just be slapped together.
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