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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Would you be able to run a 2.08 valve with a stock style piston?
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 04:42 AM
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What do you need such a big valve for?
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 06:55 AM
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That's not the question.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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The answer to my question is pertinent to the answer of your question.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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i cant see why not depending on valve location in the head and what you refer to as a "stock style" piston and also the cam...........but like joe said........why? lol
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It's an lt4 head so the valve is in the stock location. The cam would be an LE 226-232 on a 110
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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The stock LT4 valves are really nice, I would just keep them.

I find it absolutely hilarious that you want to put such a big valve in with such a big head and then a mild hydraulic cam.

A friend took second in SBNA at Dragweek this year is a touch over 400ci turns to 8500 with something like a .750lift solid roller and a 2.08 valve is all he runs in his 23 degree Dart heads. But you think it is a good idea for a 6500rpm little LT motor. I strongly suggest you begin researching what actually works instead of building the ultimate bench racer.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/5933110-post33.html
Even one of the guys going fast NA on LT4s says they are not the right choice for under 7000rpms even on solid roller strokers and that is not even getting into hogging them out to fit a 2.08 valve in them which would only make it worse for small displacement low rpm use.

Judging from your earlier reply you wont learn anything from this. You will cop an attitude.

The start of that post by Ed is a reply to me pointing out a car that runs faster than his, with lowly LT1 heads with tiny 2.00/1.56 valves, less compression.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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I don't believe you'll get them in the head if they are in stock location----if you do--they will be severely shrouded by the chamber wall and cylinder wall(if they clear)
On heads with bigger valves you will find that the intakes are moved toward the center of the chamber and the exhaust valve is moved even further over to give the intake room in between them

then there is the issue of your piston's notches aren't big enough for 2.080 valve and if they were they probably aren't in the right location
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
I don't believe you'll get them in the head if they are in stock location----if you do--they will be severely shrouded by the chamber wall and cylinder wall(if they clear)
On heads with bigger valves you will find that the intakes are moved toward the center of the chamber and the exhaust valve is moved even further over to give the intake room in between them

then there is the issue of your piston's notches aren't big enough for 2.080 valve and if they were they probably aren't in the right location
^what he said
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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then there is the issue of your piston's notches aren't big enough for 2.080 valve and if they were they probably aren't in the right location
This.

I ran into this same issue with my offset AFRs. Large valves, offset from standard location to prevent shrouding. Great idea, but with a long duration aggressive cam you run into problems with standard style pistons. Even though my SRPs have nice big 5cc valve notches, they are not quite in the right place and the exhaust valve hits the piston. Luckily my machinist charges chump change to flycut pistons, but its a PITA to have to take everything apart again.

Mine is a healthy solid roller that will see 7500+ rpm - it would be a whole lot of trouble for zero to negative benefit on a baby cammed stock computer LT1. Especially considering that you are starting with LT4 heads, which already have nice light valves for most combinations.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Well first off I don't give a **** what 96multicoloredshitboxaidicksuckershitbox thinks. The heads in question were already run on a engine with different pistons. That one is no longer with us. I get that the valves are bigger then needed but this is what I have. The heads don't look to be modified as far as valve location. The engine is .040 over with a factory style 6.1cc piston. I don't want to hear options of the setup. Just if it will work ? I need the car running and don't have the funds to buy new heads.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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Correction 7cc 4 valve relief piston
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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Wow. Good luck getting any more help from this forum.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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i am tired of that ******* constantly being a ***** in any thread that doesn't have something to do with swinging off his nuts or his fantastic setup. its not directed to you.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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here we go ...........lol
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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i am tired of that ******* constantly being a ***** in any thread that doesn't have something to do with swinging off his nuts or his fantastic setup. its not directed to you.
You really need to chill out. We all understand if funds are tight and you only have what you have to work with. But maybe you should have posted a question like " don't have a ton of extra money to buy an extra set of heads and I know these are in good shape and need the car running...." with a question like that and

Attacking him for giving you sound advice you stuck yourself. Hell not only can a set of decent stock heads be bought ~$200 assembled , one pf these big time drag racers like the one you cussed out probably would have gave you a stock cast head or heads for free or even traded to help you out.

A poor attitude leads to poor results, but an ******* usually just gets burned at the stake. Remember that!!
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by joshh123
Well first off I don't give a **** what 96multicoloredshitboxaidicksuckershitbox thinks.


Dude chill the **** out and dont bring any new douschebaggery to this site. There is already enough of it as it is. Caps post did not warrant that kind of response. You need to challenge him on the points.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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i am not a newb here fyi. just cause i don't have a high post count here doesn't mean anything. and its not my first go round with 96. i posted more on camaroz28.com and butted heads with him but i have been unable to get on a computer or worry about cars for quite some time. i didn't want an opinion about it. i don't need to explain why i was doing it anymore then i did cause it doesn't have anything to do with the question. i don't go into others post and arrogantly talk **** about anyone elses setup. he doesn't need to add his condescending 2 cents about his almighty opinion. its got nothing to do with how an lt1 head is better then an lt4 head or the reason the heads don't have the stock valves. not everyone gets away with a tear down and being able to reuse everything. i am not asking anyone for a hand out nor am i about to take one. i just need technical advice and nothing more. if that is too much to ask then please by all means cruise right on to the next topic.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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Let's throw out there the likelyhood of needing new seats since LT1 heads need them for a 2.02 valve I have to believe LT4 heads would need new seats for a 2.08 valve. Haven't seen anyone try it but I doubt you will find flaw with the reasoning.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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i posted more on camaroz28.com

Then ask them ^^^^ ram air knows his ****
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