THE CHEAPEST way to retard timing
12-02-2011, 06:20 PM
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THE CHEAPEST way to retard timing What is the cheapest way to retard timing, 94 LT1 on spray? Anything UNDER $100? It just needs to retard the timing thats it.
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12-02-2011, 10:21 PM
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i have a mallory 667c box i will sell for 125 shipped and it works fine i used it on my lt1 motor than i switched to the 24x conversion and it wont work any more for my engine.. i has 3 built in nitrous retards just ground a wire out and it will retard it. and it has a controller so you can controll it in the car.. it work awsome here is a link for it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mallory-HyFi...item5ae39b1bd9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mallory-HyFi...item5ae39b1bd9
12-03-2011, 07:49 AM
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12-03-2011, 10:08 AM
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The answer to your specific question "the cheapest way to retard the timing" is a resistor for the air temp sensor so the PCM thinks it is 100 degrees hotter than it really is ambient. Last I checked Radio Shack had them around 4 for $1.
12-03-2011, 10:10 AM
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^^^^ I'd always wondered that to.. I would say with a set up like your car or even something like my car being a bolt on with a tune we would need a separate no2 tune. I dont think running cooler plugs and retarding the timing will be surfice
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12-11-2011, 08:20 AM
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i have a mallory 667c box i will sell for 125 shipped and it works fine i used it on my lt1 motor than i switched to the 24x conversion and it wont work any more for my engine.. I has 3 built in nitrous retards just ground a wire out and it will retard it. And it has a controller so you can controll it in the car.. It work awsome here is a link for it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/mallory-hyfi...item5ae39b1bd9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/mallory-hyfi...item5ae39b1bd9
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Really, no way around cheap. Seems like there would have been an open place in the market for a cheap timing retard (when these cars where hot). The only cheap way is the resistor mod (im not fan). So the alternative is a used box, and its a good upgrade for an LT1.
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Cheap is never smart when it comes to cars. I want a cheap way to blow my pistons apart on a 150-200bigger shot of nos. I will yell you right now that on a 125 shot and up if you don't read plugs and adjust the retard the car is going to run like **** in the upper rpm on the nos. The best bang for the buck would be either a digital 6 msd or the mallory box posted. This will give you the ability o find what your engine likes. If not you will likely blow spark out and send some parts out via the oil pan real quick.
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Cheap is never smart when it comes to cars. I want a cheap way to blow my pistons apart on a 150-200bigger shot of nos. I will yell you right now that on a 125 shot and up if you don't read plugs and adjust the retard the car is going to run like **** in the upper rpm on the nos. The best bang for the buck would be either a digital 6 msd or the mallory box posted. This will give you the ability o find what your engine likes. If not you will likely blow spark out and send some parts out via the oil pan real quick.
12-15-2011, 08:20 PM
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MAF Translator Plus has timing retard for N20 and it's plug and play, no wire cutting or splicing and I have one for sale brand new never used. Here's some pics
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im in the same boat i like the mallory box but the msd 6al with a timing box is nice too anyone have these items still for sale? vendors?
i have a 94 lt1 doing a wet 150 set up i dont want to spend a ton of money but i know this stuff isnt cheap either.
whats the easiest user friendly ways to pull 3-4 degrees on these motors only when spraying either manually or automatically?
i have a 94 lt1 doing a wet 150 set up i dont want to spend a ton of money but i know this stuff isnt cheap either.
whats the easiest user friendly ways to pull 3-4 degrees on these motors only when spraying either manually or automatically?
10-30-2013, 05:10 PM
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Mallory 685 is probably the best combination of cheap easy and automatic.
I know this is an old post BUT I still think it odd I didn't see anyone ask how the car was setup before he wanted to pull timing.
If someone has a bolton car with stock programming I would just put 92-94 octane in, stock programming is for 91 octane and safely conservative, little extra octane and a modest shot should be nice and safe. If he had an aggressive tune tune though then it would be prudent to look to dial it back some.
There is a "professional" tuner that has repeatedly been caught setting timing over 40degrees at WOT sometimes with AFRs over 14:1, you spray a 100shot on that and you will likely have a problem.
I know this is an old post BUT I still think it odd I didn't see anyone ask how the car was setup before he wanted to pull timing.
If someone has a bolton car with stock programming I would just put 92-94 octane in, stock programming is for 91 octane and safely conservative, little extra octane and a modest shot should be nice and safe. If he had an aggressive tune tune though then it would be prudent to look to dial it back some.
There is a "professional" tuner that has repeatedly been caught setting timing over 40degrees at WOT sometimes with AFRs over 14:1, you spray a 100shot on that and you will likely have a problem.