LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old 12-05-2011, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
I do currently have 4.11's and a very optimized dyno tune. The surge is reduced as much as can be done while still running a closed loop MAF tune which I prefer to run since I am not racing.
Where do you feel the most surge? I was under the impression that you will still have some surge no matter what you do.

On a side note how do you like the MWC 9" and the 4.10's?
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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk
I had a dyno tune with my stock 3.42's. Runs rock solid. I'm sure with a dyno tune you can hit some excellent #'s with your setup.

Do you have a place that does dyno tunes near you?
The goal is 400 rwhp, being my first build I'll be happy with what It puts down.

I do, from what I hear he is the best around
Old 12-05-2011, 10:20 PM
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What kind of mpg's are you getting with this setup and how much hp do you think you have?
Old 12-06-2011, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Camaroking1996
What kind of mpg's are you getting with this setup and how much hp do you think you have?
11-14.5 city and 19 Highway, 400rwhp i hope
Old 12-06-2011, 09:22 AM
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With a proper tune you should have no surge at all, Mine was 244 duration and I have tuned cars in the 250-260 duration, No surge. Get a good tuner and he can fix that...
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Originally Posted by 95sscamaro
Where do you feel the most surge? I was under the impression that you will still have some surge no matter what you do.

On a side note how do you like the MWC 9" and the 4.10's?
What I feel is at low load, low RPM and when simply cruising under low load. It is not severe at all, just a little annoying. Anyone else may not even ever notice it. My tuner went to great lengths to get it where it is and its not worth spending lots of money to further eliminate.

If I were to run an open loop tune, then it would be 100% gone but I elect to not run an open loop tune for the increased MPGs and overall reliability. The motor just wants a bit more gas than the PCM will allow at the affected conditions. Again not a real big deal.

I am going to replace the cam due to the pump drive gear issue and am going to give a 110 LSA a shot to see if helps to reduce it further.

The MWC and 4.11s are great but I am considering on going back to 3.90s which IMO are better for a street hot rod. The 4.11s are better for the strip. With the 4.11, my 1st gear is almost useless on street tires, just lights them up every time even when easing it out.
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
What I feel is at low load, low RPM and when simply cruising under low load. It is not severe at all, just a little annoying. Anyone else may not even ever notice it. My tuner went to great lengths to get it where it is and its not worth spending lots of money to further eliminate.

If I were to run an open loop tune, then it would be 100% gone but I elect to not run an open loop tune for the increased MPGs and overall reliability. The motor just wants a bit more gas than the PCM will allow at the affected conditions. Again not a real big deal.

I am going to replace the cam due to the pump drive gear issue and am going to give a 110 LSA a shot to see if helps to reduce it further.

The MWC and 4.11s are great but I am considering on going back to 3.90s which IMO are better for a street hot rod. The 4.11s are better for the strip. With the 4.11, my 1st gear is almost useless on street tires, just lights them up every time even when easing it out.
That low rpm surge can get annoying real quick. I still haven’t had the car that long but I did take a road trip with it and after three hours of driving all I wanted to do is get out of the car.
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car sounds great. Its the exact same cam llyod cut for me. I will be running his ported 21* trickflows tho
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Originally Posted by TravisMcGill2000
car sounds great. Its the exact same cam llyod cut for me. I will be running his ported 21* trickflows tho
I would like to see what that setup would put down
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Originally Posted by TravisMcGill2000
car sounds great. Its the exact same cam llyod cut for me. I will be running his ported 21* trickflows tho
Looking forward to seeing your dyno #'s as well with those 21* heads! I almost regret not putting a more aggressive cam like your guys cam. I might have gotten more power out of my heads especially after the extra work Jason Short and his boss said they put into these LE2 heads.
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My dyno numbers wont be to hot. Goin thru a stalled auto and 9in eats lot power. Im lookin for trap speeds. Cant wait to hit it with a 250 shot



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