So turned out my headers are fucked up so heres the question how bad are long tubes to actually do ive seen everyone say that there horrible and seen some that say there not bad , how bad are they actually? I know you gotta snake them in from the bottom but what else do you gotta Remove to do it seeing as I gotta do these myself lol

 

When I did mine (pacesetters), all I did was disconnect the steering linkage and pulled the alternator, then removed the motor mount (I was doing them anyway) for the side I was working on. Lifted the engine on the side I was working on, and slid them on. The driver side went in from the top and passenger from the bottom. Wasn't really hard at all. Got them done in a few hours in my driveway.

 

How are the pacesetters ? I was actually looking at them

 

Pacesetters are one of the top selling best bang for your buck headers.
I just got the stainless obx "eBay" headers since my motor is out.

 

I just put in some Kooks LT's. Pulled the plugs, valve covers, alternator and unbolted the motor mounts. Lifted the motor from under the car. For me driverside slid in from the bottom (I never touched steering linkage) Passenger side slid in from the top. Was pretty simple and easy just was time consuming.

 

That's cool what did you guys do for a y pipe?

 

I have never had to mess with motor mounts,just slide them in.

 

You go trough the op or bottom???

 

Ive put in several sets, and both the Hooker and Pacesetters I have installed went in from the bottom with only the alternator , starter, and a few sensors (just to keep from tearing stuff up.

 

The pacesetters fit fine, if they're factory. Mine were played with before I got them. I have a minor rattle issue that will be taken care of when I go with stainless lt's. If you're gonna spend the money definitely get the coated. The paint doesn't last but 10 minutes. And I used the pacesetter y for mine.

 

Always from the bottom,my car was used for the mock up/ design at pacesetter.