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Old 03-08-2012, 02:18 PM
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1_t56
how is the 306 a bad cam if im overhauling the engine!!?
I'm telling you, I daily drove with that cam for 4 years, the cam sucks. Sure it makes GREAT power up top for what it is, and sounds good. But for a street car, it was the worst decision I made when building the motor in my car. If you want an off the shelf cam, the cc 503 is a much better choice, and will be way more fun to drive on the street. Also, what gears are you running out back?
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stock 2:73 m6, shovel in more hate guys
Old 03-08-2012, 02:54 PM
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You two new guys ask for advise and when you get it and you're not happy you start saying everybody else is F'd up. Have you looked at what these guys have accomplished with their cars and you're arguing with them!??
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Originally Posted by lt1_t56
stock 2:73 m6, shovel in more hate guys
After I blew up my 4.10s, I ran a 2.73 rear end that I had laying around for a month or two, it SUCKED with the 306. FWIW, m6 cars have 3.42 stock.

I don't know why you are getting butt hurt about this. You say you want a fun street car, everyone is telling you the 306 in NOT a fun street cam. And if you are tired of hearing it, delete your thread and do what you want to get the results you do not want.
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Originally Posted by lt1_t56
Everyone trash talking my build my engine is going to blow up and my pos RAM clutch is going to fail, have you ever used the ram clutch? Or are you just posting about others stories? you dont know jack about the clutch. Its my first lt1 the damn thing is either going to go or blow the way i look at it. You live and you learn that's way i go through life. Doing it the "right way" MY WAY!
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thats the way i look at it... u didnt ask IS THIS THE RIGHT WAY. u said this is the right way and thats ur right way... this is my 1st lt1 also and i think its funny all the diff things ppl say and the next will say something way diff then the last lol good luck man hope it goes b4 it blows
Both of your rationale's is ******* hilarious.
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I agree with the rest of the posters on the cam choice...why put an OLD cam in a NEW build especially one that is not optimized for it (good ported heads, stroker, ect) Technology progresses, that is the nature of hot-rodding. You would have better driveability and power with a more modern cam design period. Something to consider NOW.

As for the RAM clutch, they are not all a POS as others suggest here I have one of their "powergrip" clutches which is a step above what you have I believe....it's been holding up just fine to my H/C/I/383 which should be making well over 400 RWTQ and it handles the abuse no problem...can even break loose the 315mm tires shifting from 3rd to 4th gear at over 90mph (4.10's); hasn't slipped or been a pain to drive at all. I would probably step it up to this model at least (550hp rated):

http://www.jegs.com/i/Ram-Clutches/7...oductId=763812

Good luck...sorry everybody's bashing the **** out of your thread, try to take something positive from it because their just trying to help you.
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ok. well its not to late would a cc503 shelf cam be better for my applacation?
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Originally Posted by lt1_t56
ok. well its not to late would a cc503 shelf cam be better for my applacation?
Compared to a 306 with the goal of being a fun street car, a hundred times yes.
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im not fighting with any of them they have a say and i look into eveything everyone says and now im trying to find a better cam and then all the make sure w.e else i have will work with it. i tried to ask someone to build me a top end bc i will see what i have and get all new ****. i ahve said what im looking to get out off it and want it for but i got no help so im jsut sitting on these parts waiting. im on here all day trying to find out more and more about it all i jsut hate how ppl talk **** about something someone WANTS to do. this guy didnt ask if u guys liked what he was doing just said what he was doing then everyone hates on it for what just to talk **** over the internet.
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Originally Posted by keithcampbell
im not fighting with any of them they have a say and i look into eveything everyone says and now im trying to find a better cam and then all the make sure w.e else i have will work with it. i tried to ask someone to build me a top end bc i will see what i have and get all new ****. i ahve said what im looking to get out off it and want it for but i got no help so im jsut sitting on these parts waiting. im on here all day trying to find out more and more about it all i jsut hate how ppl talk **** about something someone WANTS to do. this guy didnt ask if u guys liked what he was doing just said what he was doing then everyone hates on it for what just to talk **** over the internet.
The guy said he wants a fun street car, and the 306 on stock heads will not provide that, hands down. So of course we are going to tell him not to do it.
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its the way it was said anyways

thats the cam i have also and am buying dart heads soon but i need to find a better cam also now and i know not to use the under drive i got and i got 1.5rr but i hear i need 1.6 or 1.7 thats y i asked someone from what i want help me and tell me what to buy and i will
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Originally Posted by lt1_t56
ok. well its not to late would a cc503 shelf cam be better for my applacation?
Definitely, "smaller" cams are better and more fun for a street car; I had a similar cam to that which is a bit newer in design...the Lunati voodoo 60121 when my car was cam only and it was a blast on the street. You still will want to upgrade rear gears more than likely to at least 3.73 or 4.10 to really get the most out of it and have near stock driveability. Even 3.42's are too tall for the 6spd IMO...much less 2.73's
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Originally Posted by 69gto96z
The guy said he wants a fun street car, and the 306 on stock heads will not provide that, hands down. So of course we are going to tell him not to do it.
I'm having the runners port matched to the intake cc306 still a bad choice..?
It wont be LE2's but the pros at moffitt machine shop do a great job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUSvQAMBRc
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Originally Posted by lt1_t56
I'm having the runners port matched to the intake cc306 still a bad choice..?
It wont be LE2's but the pros at moffitt machine shop do a great job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLUSvQAMBRc
You were on the right path with the smaller cam....port matched runners aren't going to do **** as far as power/driveability with that cam. Save your $$ for this port matching and by a decent SMALLER cam....or don't follow everyone's advice and end up with a sub-par performer with no power or torque under 3000 RPM....your choice.
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
You were on the right path with the smaller cam....port matched runners aren't going to do **** as far as power/driveability with that cam. Save your $$ for this port matching and by a decent SMALLER cam....or don't follow everyone's advice and end up with a sub-par performer with no power or torque under 3000 RPM....your choice.
okay! 503 it is http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CC...03-8/?rtype=10
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WOW!! What is going on, on this website!
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Are the lt1 heads reversible? #7 beat the head, want to move that eat up side to #2
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I have a built 355 with the 306 cam and I daily drive it. If I could do it all over again I would've never used that cam. It's not bad but there are much better choices out there. Take the advice that has been posted here! Please do your research before wasting money!
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Originally Posted by lt1_t56
Are the lt1 heads reversible? #7 beat the head, want to move that eat up side to #2
Holy ****, seriously?!


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