FAD2BLK93

Hey...just like the title says guys. Ls1 brake conversion or the c5 brackets then the rotors and calipers? I think the c5 would cost more but is it worth the performance? Cost vs. Performance...thanks and GO!

SS RRR

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Can't say anything about f-body ls1 brakes, however I have done the C5 conversion and am completely slap happy with it. Far easier IMO. You save yourself about a hundred dollars and the PITA of changing out the steering knuckles and then having to get an alignment. If you have the chance I'd go for the C5 conversion. Check out the Corvette Forum F/S section to see if you can pick up used rotors and calipers which will save a bunch as well.

F0x Slaughter

Burkart Chassis makes lightweight spindles from stock to 2" drop and can come complete with either Aerospace or Strange brakes from 1000 to 1200.

FAD2BLK93

I was looking at the C5 brackets on Ebay for 189.95. Actually they say they are for C5-C6 conversion brackets. C5 C6 brakes are bigger than LS1 right? 13"?

F0x Slaughter

Yes so you need a rim size that will fit over the new setup. I believe 17 is the smallest you can go. You also will need calipers and rotors. Which is going to up the price.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/susp...r-pics-803536/

jaycenk

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F-body Ls1's will fit in factory 16 inch wheels. C5 setup will not fit in most 16 inch wheels. I do think I have heard of guys running skinnies up front and getting away with it but I Have not seen anything posted about it in years.

FAD2BLK93

I wont have a problem in the rim size, i run 05 C5 silver rims...275/30/18 front 295/30/19 rear.

brokenbird

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Unless your abs works I would not do the c5 breaks I have them and it very easy to lock them up without the abs

F0x Slaughter

Who uses ABS? I have never activated the ABS on my Camaro. My 2012 Chevy Cruze is the only car (besides Camaro) I've owned with ABS and I'm still alive? ABS is over rated.

I'm removing my ABS.

jaycenk

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ABS is ok in certain towing applications but still barley makes a difference.

jesup16

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I've looked deeply into this. They are several kits on Ebay and some kits on summit and other performance sites.

The fact of the matter is the C5 conversion will need rotors, conversion kit, pads, and calipers.

The are some conversions that use the bigger rotors, but the same calipers/pad...this is useless in my mind because you aren't increasing the surface area using the same caliper...maybe I'm wrong here, but from my knowledge there are 3 things to increase braking performance/stopping distance.

1. Contact surface area of pad-rotor
2. Contact surface area of tire with road
3. Type of material used in both 1&2 - softer compound tires and performance pad

Things like cross-drilled and slotted rotors help with efficiency (racing related), but actually have less surface area is not really helping stopping distances.

Are you concerned about stopping distances or efficiency more?

To answer your question directly - i'm not 100% sure on what the difference is in the size of the pad used on the c5 compared to the LS1 - maybe someone can answer this

jaycenk

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You forgot heat dissipation. Using a larger rotor with the same pad surface area is an advantage in heat dissipation. This can be a benefit in street driving during emergency barking because there is more heat dissipation you will be less likely to warp a rotor. An experiment of this is to take a large fry pan and put it on a small burner (electric) on high and cook some chicken or something. You would think that just the center would over heat. It does to a point but not as much as you would expect. The heat dissipates out to the edges. leaving the center hotter but not as hot as you would think.

94LT1TA6spd

I thought you needed to extend lines too, no? I am very interested in this as well, dont forget with the larger rotors and relocation bracket, you need to make sure that your wheels are large enough to clear everything...

I will follow this thread with interest!
Thanks for posting!

jesup16

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Heat dissipation (spelling?) is important...but it depends on the needs of the OP.

If the OP just wants better brakes because he has 500hp and feels that he wants increased braking for that 'oh S@$&' moment...then heat dissipation really isn't a factor in a single circumstance like this.

If the OP is considering auto-x, road racing, or any other situation where the brakes are under constant, hard loads, then yes, heat dissipation is major concern...nobody likes brake fade.

I think the stock lines could can reach, but it's a stretch and a good idea to upgrade at the time.

ahritchie

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It really comes down to how much you want to spend...the cheapest COMPLETE c5 brake kit I have seen is from the WS6 Store: $732

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...onversion-kit/

That said, having LS1 car too, I know their brakes are a HUGE improvement over crappy LT1 brakes with single piston calipers and tiny rotors. I bought a LS1 front brake kit off ebay for only $120 with everything (spindles, rotors, calipers) then had just had to buy pads and new brake hoses ($80) and paid a mechanic to rebuild the calipers, turn the rotors, and install everything on my car for another $150....so only $350 total investment installed. You could easily upgrade the rear brakes too to LS1 spec for less than just front c5 brakes too which is something to think about.

I would say LS1 brakes are more than adequate for street use...if you track your car a lot or autocross I would upgrade. I'm sure the C5 brakes look better too.

jaycenk

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I agreed with your first post points and your second just saying it can be a factor in the mix as well. All depends on what anyone is looking for. You can get a set of pads made for racing but the rotors will pay the price. Depending on what you want to spend and what you use them for, there is a setup for everything on these cars.

jaycenk

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some say they do the LS1 conversion with stock lines (never tried personally) but I just bought LS1 front lines since the stockers were 11 years old at the time with 100k on them.

ahritchie

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No, LT1 brake lines/hoses will not fit LS1 brakes; my mechanic made that very clear the other day...they will work until you turn the steering wheel and pull the brake hose out shooting brake fluid all over LOL . LS1 brake hoses are also side specific with one side longer; while LT1 brake hoses are not.

jaycenk

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good thing I never tried it then lol

sandman2100

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kore3 is the cheapest I've found. $619 for their no frills kit.