LT1 Header Compatibility Question
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LT1 Header Compatibility Question I'm replacing the exhaust and while I'm trying to do it as cheaply as possible I'm also trying to squeeze as much performance as I can out of it....
So... My question is: Will these headers fit on my 93 Firebird Formula?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SU...n/?prefilter=0
Because I'm fairly certain it matters I'm also ordering the EGR and AIR block off plate kit......
I'm going to be using a universal pipe kit for everything else....
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...30560/10002/-1
I got a couple mufflers so yeah.... I just need to know if the headers will fit because they say it's for 94-95.... but I'm hoping that's just because of differing EGR or AIR hookups.... which I will be scrapping anyway...
Thanks in advance!
So... My question is: Will these headers fit on my 93 Firebird Formula?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SU...n/?prefilter=0
Because I'm fairly certain it matters I'm also ordering the EGR and AIR block off plate kit......
I'm going to be using a universal pipe kit for everything else....
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...30560/10002/-1
I got a couple mufflers so yeah.... I just need to know if the headers will fit because they say it's for 94-95.... but I'm hoping that's just because of differing EGR or AIR hookups.... which I will be scrapping anyway...
Thanks in advance!
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Anybody? I mean it hasn't been that long but there are enough new posts someone should have read it that would know..... I hope anyway....
I've got like 30 windows open trying to search the whole internet (lol) for the
best deal....
My exhaust is literally falling apart.... I lost my driver's side tailpipe today
broke right off at the muffler
I'm going all the way to the headers because they too are leaking and I'm
done dealing with it.....
OR if anyone who reads this has a set of long tube headers they want to get rid of..... as long as you aren't as insane as some of the people on CL charging full retail or better for used parts.... one set of headers.... wow just wow you have to see it yourselves....
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/pts/2922261029.html
Anyway yeah please help.....
Thanks
I've got like 30 windows open trying to search the whole internet (lol) for the
best deal....
My exhaust is literally falling apart.... I lost my driver's side tailpipe today
broke right off at the muffler
I'm going all the way to the headers because they too are leaking and I'm
done dealing with it.....
OR if anyone who reads this has a set of long tube headers they want to get rid of..... as long as you aren't as insane as some of the people on CL charging full retail or better for used parts.... one set of headers.... wow just wow you have to see it yourselves....
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/pts/2922261029.html
Anyway yeah please help.....
Thanks
No, they will not fit. They will bolt to the heads sure but the primary piping is routed in such a way that it won't clear the k-member, starter, accessories, etc. You need to find headers that are LT1-specific.
Try www.byunspeed.com. They have a ****-ton of LT1-specific headers.
Try www.byunspeed.com. They have a ****-ton of LT1-specific headers.
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Thanks for the info.... Do you happen to know where I can find any ~200$ long tube headers?
I'm checking that link you gave me now....
I just looked and they ARE LT1 specific it just says it's for a 94-95 Camaro/Firebird
Make CHEVROLET
Model CAMARO
Submodel Z28
Beginning Year 1994
Ending Year 1995
Engine Swap No
Engine Type V8
Liter 5.7
CID 350
Engine Size 5.7L/350
Engine Family Chevy small block Gen II (LT-based engines)
Drivetrain RWD
Power Steering Yes
Power Brakes (application) Yes
Air Conditioning Yes
Standard Transmission Column Shift No
Standard Transmission Floor Shift Yes
Automatic Transmission Column Shift No
Automatic Transmission Floor Shift Yes
Footnotes 2 - Slip-fit collector.
3 - Hookups for smog and engine management sensors.
9 - Catalytic converter must be relocated.
13 - Long tube header.
16 - Y-pipe available to connect to stock system.
I'm checking that link you gave me now....
I just looked and they ARE LT1 specific it just says it's for a 94-95 Camaro/Firebird
Make CHEVROLET
Model CAMARO
Submodel Z28
Beginning Year 1994
Ending Year 1995
Engine Swap No
Engine Type V8
Liter 5.7
CID 350
Engine Size 5.7L/350
Engine Family Chevy small block Gen II (LT-based engines)
Drivetrain RWD
Power Steering Yes
Power Brakes (application) Yes
Air Conditioning Yes
Standard Transmission Column Shift No
Standard Transmission Floor Shift Yes
Automatic Transmission Column Shift No
Automatic Transmission Floor Shift Yes
Footnotes 2 - Slip-fit collector.
3 - Hookups for smog and engine management sensors.
9 - Catalytic converter must be relocated.
13 - Long tube header.
16 - Y-pipe available to connect to stock system.
Last edited by Tristan Holley; Mar 27, 2012 at 06:20 AM.
Ah I missed that. At first glance they look like SBC headers.
The EGR/AIR hookups for 93s are slightly different. But I would be VERY uncomfortable buying $180 headers as the workmanship and quality is likely going to be poor. Look for Pacesetters - they are arguably the best bang for the buck when it comes to headers. And you can get them 93-specific.
The EGR/AIR hookups for 93s are slightly different. But I would be VERY uncomfortable buying $180 headers as the workmanship and quality is likely going to be poor. Look for Pacesetters - they are arguably the best bang for the buck when it comes to headers. And you can get them 93-specific.
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Ah I missed that. At first glance they look like SBC headers.
The EGR/AIR hookups for 93s are slightly different. But I would be VERY uncomfortable buying $180 headers as the workmanship and quality is likely going to be poor. Look for Pacesetters - they are arguably the best bang for the buck when it comes to headers. And you can get them 93-specific.
The EGR/AIR hookups for 93s are slightly different. But I would be VERY uncomfortable buying $180 headers as the workmanship and quality is likely going to be poor. Look for Pacesetters - they are arguably the best bang for the buck when it comes to headers. And you can get them 93-specific.
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ck-off-plates/
Also just out of curiosity why does 180$ mean bad? I'm sure it'll be way better than stock... but if you look here: http://www.summitracing.com/search/B...t/?Ns=Rank|Asc
then you can see the 3 headers that are being compared (those are the only LT specific ones) and the cheap ones that I want are identical to the other two with the exception of having slightly different emissions hookups (at least that's how it appears) oh and being 100$ more....
If youre looking for a cheap header that fits well you should read this thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...-recieved.html
They are on back order at the moment but if you can wait i'd say they are well worth their price.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...-recieved.html
They are on back order at the moment but if you can wait i'd say they are well worth their price.
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Verdad Gallardo I have a set of used Jethot LT headers I would let go for pretty cheap...the drivers side collector was pretty close to the floor board but it might just be my car. They are ceramic coated but the parts that hang down in road spray are rusty.
If anyone is interested shoot me a PM and I can get you some pictures.
If anyone is interested shoot me a PM and I can get you some pictures.
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Well I just placed my order.... Here's what I ended up getting
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9028/ I went with these because I got too nervous at the last minute to order something that MIGHT not fit... I might save 80$ at first but between return shipping and restocking fees etc I probably wouldn't save a dime....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/UPI-2100/ EGR Block off plates
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...30560/10002/-1
Universal Dual Exhaust Kit
http://www.jegs.com/i/Dynomax/289/24205/10002/-1
2x Dynomax Thrush Magnum Glasspack Muffler
http://www.jegs.com/i/Hooker+Headers/520/22201/10002/-1
Hooker Headers Large Bore Exhaust Tip Extentions
Yes I know it's gonna be a little on the loud side.... ok... it's gonna be stupid loud probably.... but I bet I get a nice little performance bump though....
This is gonna be fun.... I'll be posting pics as everything comes in and gets installed....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9028/ I went with these because I got too nervous at the last minute to order something that MIGHT not fit... I might save 80$ at first but between return shipping and restocking fees etc I probably wouldn't save a dime....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/UPI-2100/ EGR Block off plates
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...30560/10002/-1
Universal Dual Exhaust Kit
http://www.jegs.com/i/Dynomax/289/24205/10002/-1
2x Dynomax Thrush Magnum Glasspack Muffler
http://www.jegs.com/i/Hooker+Headers/520/22201/10002/-1
Hooker Headers Large Bore Exhaust Tip Extentions
Yes I know it's gonna be a little on the loud side.... ok... it's gonna be stupid loud probably.... but I bet I get a nice little performance bump though....
This is gonna be fun.... I'll be posting pics as everything comes in and gets installed....
I hope those headers fit well. It's nice to see new products coming out for us.
I bet its going to be really really raspy with those small pipes, glasspacks and no crossover, but some people love that sound. I've ran that same setup on my old truck. It sounded like **** ran out the back but I ended up cutting off the tailpipes and just dumping the mufflers behind the cab. That cut out on the rasp and made it sound much better.
I bet its going to be really really raspy with those small pipes, glasspacks and no crossover, but some people love that sound. I've ran that same setup on my old truck. It sounded like **** ran out the back but I ended up cutting off the tailpipes and just dumping the mufflers behind the cab. That cut out on the rasp and made it sound much better.
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I hope those headers fit well. It's nice to see new products coming out for us.
I bet its going to be really really raspy with those small pipes, glasspacks and no crossover, but some people love that sound. I've ran that same setup on my old truck. It sounded like **** ran out the back but I ended up cutting off the tailpipes and just dumping the mufflers behind the cab. That cut out on the rasp and made it sound much better.
I bet its going to be really really raspy with those small pipes, glasspacks and no crossover, but some people love that sound. I've ran that same setup on my old truck. It sounded like **** ran out the back but I ended up cutting off the tailpipes and just dumping the mufflers behind the cab. That cut out on the rasp and made it sound much better.
OK grabbed a Universal H-Pipe Kit from Jegs
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...30650/10002/-1
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I have a 93, those headers will fit but the egr and air will be in the wrong place. At least one of them will be, not sure which one. I believe its the egr.but u are going to block them anyway. U will also need a panhard bar relocation kit to drop the bar to run the exhaust through if u decide to go out the back.
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I have a 93, those headers will fit but the egr and air will be in the wrong place. At least one of them will be, not sure which one. I believe its the egr.but u are going to block them anyway. U will also need a panhard bar relocation kit to drop the bar to run the exhaust through if u decide to go out the back.
I'll get some pics later it's kinda ugly with all the clamps but I'll get it welded up once I'm sure it's good like this....
I ended up getting the race headers without any EGR or AIR and the sent me Pacesetters I just got them on this morning..... I am VERY VERY happy with my setup it's actually pretty quiet under normal circumstances but it opens way up when I step on it....
I'll get some pics later it's kinda ugly with all the clamps but I'll get it welded up once I'm sure it's good like this....
I'll get some pics later it's kinda ugly with all the clamps but I'll get it welded up once I'm sure it's good like this....
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Yep I have bought several "house" brand items from both and they show up with a name on them. For instance I once bought a set of "summit" brand head bolts for a cheap rebuild, when they arived they had ARP stamped on the head...lol, they were 15 dollors cheaper than the ARP set...ol
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Pacesetters for the win.... Driver's side was a total breeze.... Passenger side required MUCH more cussing to install... Anyway I'll go outside and grab a few post install pics
It sounds beautiful! My ONLY complaint is the driver's side does bang the steering linkage I gotta fix that it looked like it would clear but... guess not...
It sounds beautiful! My ONLY complaint is the driver's side does bang the steering linkage I gotta fix that it looked like it would clear but... guess not...