z28tommy

So I was thinking on getting some heads and cam since I'm gonna have to pull out my motor I've heard a lot of great thinks of the Lloyd Elliot setups..I would love to get one of them but really don't know which one to go with..I want to keep the bottom end stock..would the le1 be good or the le2 I'll new glad with like 360Rwhp at least..around how much would everything run..also would a pcm for less be a good tune?
Any help would be appreciated

bizerk1

You should look into A.I., I wanted LE, then was enlightened into the A.I head and cam setup. You can get prices on their websites. If you go with LE, your going to want that little more, so just go with le2. it is only 400 more, or so beats having to pull it off again later on, if your not happy. LE is done by hand if I am not mistaken and AI is dont by computers and machining

z28tommy

I thought LE was all cnc work..what setup is good for a stock bottom end from AI is it a lil more pricy?

transbird95

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LE is hand ported. Shoot him an email on what you want and he will take care of you. He is really fast with replys and extremely helpfull. btw, I am running his LE2s on the stock bottom end. here is his website if you dont know elliottsportworks.com Hope this helps.

RamAir95TA

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When it comes to stock castings, AI uses CNC machining, LE is old school hand-porting.

LE is great if you're on a budget, but go with AI if you want every last drop of potential out of the stock castings. Keep in mind you'll probably only want to do the heads once.

starbucks

In my personal opinion I would go with LE every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I bought some LE2 heads and a LE1 cam and made 422 Rwhp and 412 Rwtq you can't do that with AI for the same price. Oh and that was through a 9 inch rear end

96capricemgr

iTrader: (1)

How does it perform?

wrd1972

iTrader: (12)

What cam was this?
Were these SAE corrected numbers?
Times?

starbucks

@96capricemgr best to date on motor is 11.48 @ 118 and on spray 10.23 @ 128. That part that I was impressed with the most was the horsepower under the curve compared to other people dyno sheets and the toque is flat all the way across.

starbucks

@wrd1972 cam is his 223/230

96capricemgr

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IMO mid 11s at 118 does not support that dyno chart.

I would not claim my car would dyno that high and it runs within .1 and 2mph and is certainly heavier.

Hell you dyno HP is close and tq much higher than the fastest NA stock shortblock Impala that is heavier and half a second 4mph faster than you.

Dyno like the flow bench doesn't tell the whole story.

starbucks

I'll post the dyno when I get home.

starbucks

And time slip when I get home.

RamAir95TA

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What are the rest of your mods? All we know is that you have LE heads, a Ford 9", and a 223/230 cam.

slomarao

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i will be putting Le2's heads on my car soon....for the money you cant beat it

transbird95

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This thread isn't about Starbucks car, the op just wanted to know what le head would be best. Can we not have another classic derailed lt1 head debate!!

Melkor

Why would you want to split hairs over something you probably can't calculate within ~2% error anyways?

Adam1203

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I would go with the le2 if you have the money. the stock bottom end is pretty strong when it comes to NA applications. I would not recommended reeving it to the sky. But you can have LE spec out a cam for your application.


I would definitely give him a call though and talk to him and tell him your plans for the car.

96capricemgr

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starbuck is just offering an unreasonable expectation. I believe him to be honest and would just chalk it up to a happy dyno or missreading of spikes.

SS RRR

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Which voids what you stated earlier in your post. You can't doubt dyno numbers and compare them when we have no idea of track conditions/elevation and transmission used. If it's a manual car those numbers aren't far off 118mph through the traps.