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Old 05-29-2012, 04:02 PM
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hello i am looking for options as to what to do about my engine problem in my current car. I have looked at the price of rebuilding it and also i ahve been looking at some crate engines. So my question is will a blueprint engines 4 bolt main corvette engine drop right in to my 95 firebird formula m6? i called blueprint engines and got some girl who answered who didnt have a clue so i thought i'd ask here. O and is my car a pin driven distributor?
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If it's just the block, it'll drop right in.
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93 and 94 are spline drive, 95-97 are pin drive.
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ok thanks and i beleive the engine would come as a long block so would those corvette cylinder heads be any different? and would my lt1 intake just bolt right up?
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The engine will be essentially the same. It's the accessory bracket and accessories that are different (power steering, AC components, tension pully, alternator)...Also, Im not sure if the waterpumps are different on the vettes or not
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By "blueprint engines" do you mean a cheap re-manufacturing place?

By buying a super special "Corvette" piece you are likely to pay more for nothing. The 4-bolt mains are not a concern till you double stock engine output and that is the only difference. It is actually even the same block just drilled for more main bolts.

The super special Corvette got the same heads and cam as your car.
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4thgenfan1995,

Thank you for considering BluePrint Engines, it sounds like you may have contacted one of our customer service reps and did not get transferred to our technical department, please let me know if you have any questions or concerns and I would love to help you out. Also if you could can you either PM or let me know what customer service rep you got a hold of so I can make sure that we get calls like that transferred next time.

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ok so my question to blueprint engines is what does your corvette lt1 longblck assembly all come with? and will all my accesories from my firebird just bolt right up to it?
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What do you think you are getting out of putting a "corvette" engine in your car?
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Nothing really. Just I'd rather have the 4 bolt block then a 2 bolt block
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Originally Posted by 4thgenfan1995
Nothing really. Just I'd rather have the 4 bolt block then a 2 bolt block
648 RWHP on a two bolt....nuff said.
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If you just "feel better" about a 4-bolt but then also feel OK about buying from a bare bones basic rebuilder then I think you are in the wrong place.

Only reason I would buy from a mass rebuilder would be for coast to coast warranty on a STOCK car. Otherwise I feel junkyard OEM stuff is great for most guys. The stock engine handles a lot and does so cheaply and efficiently and nobody can match the coin they have to spend on the right equipment and QC.
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ok but then there is also the problem that i am in winnipeg in canada and there are no lt1 engine savailable from a junkyard here. and i dont know if my engine is repairable as there was a lot of metal in my oil filter
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Originally Posted by 4thgenfan1995
ok but then there is also the problem that i am in winnipeg in canada and there are no lt1 engine savailable from a junkyard here. and i dont know if my engine is repairable as there was a lot of metal in my oil filter
It should be re-buildable; you could still see the factory cylinder hone marks on my 140K LT1 on when it was rebuilt; it didn't even need to be bored .30 over. The cam and rod bearings were indeed shot however....probably where your metal shavings are coming from. Any competent machine shop should be able to rebuild a basic SB 350 as that's all it is really. I would have them rebuild it with new bearings, rings, oil pump, and re-size the rods with ARP bolts and call it good or go all out and do an all forged 383.
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yea i would like to rebuild my engine but i was only considering buying a blueprint engines engine for the simple fact that i could have my car running again for like 3 grand. I don't think i will be able to get my engine rebuilt by someone for under 3k. The guy at the machine sho psaid basically 1000 bucks just in machine work and then theres is also labour for tearing apart and puting back together plus my crank might be shot as well as my rods my be shot and if thats the case then id have to go new crank,rods, and pistons and there is no way i could pay someone to do all that for under 3k right?
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Originally Posted by 4thgenfan1995
yea i would like to rebuild my engine but i was only considering buying a blueprint engines engine for the simple fact that i could have my car running again for like 3 grand. I don't think i will be able to get my engine rebuilt by someone for under 3k. The guy at the machine sho psaid basically 1000 bucks just in machine work and then theres is also labour for tearing apart and puting back together plus my crank might be shot as well as my rods my be shot and if thats the case then id have to go new crank,rods, and pistons and there is no way i could pay someone to do all that for under 3k right?
There's no way it should cost 3K to rebuild it; $1500 tops...maybe $1000 machine work and $200-300 assembly plus parts. I would contact some machine shops for quotes. FWIW...I bought a brand new all forged 383 LT1 shortblock with quality components and all ARP bolts for $2200; just the forged pistons, crankshaft, rods are worth over $1500....not to mention machining costs and extras such as cam, lifters, 7qt oil pan, gaskets, ect. ect....keep your eyes out for deals.
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Originally Posted by 4thgenfan1995
hello i am looking for options as to what to do about my engine problem in my current car. I have looked at the price of rebuilding it and also i ahve been looking at some crate engines. So my question is will a blueprint engines 4 bolt main corvette engine drop right in to my 95 firebird formula m6? i called blueprint engines and got some girl who answered who didnt have a clue so i thought i'd ask here. O and is my car a pin driven distributor?
What went bad with your engine first? This will most likely determine whether yours is rebuildable and what parts could be needed. But it sounds like you have this engines manufactures ear by the way he replied within a day of your post. Lets see how badly he wants your business. Maybe he can post their build sheet, then let these boys make the call on the quality of parts used.
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The shop you talked to was quoting $1000 in machining because they were assuming an overbore and balancing and such.

If you spun a main bearing then the block is likely not worth dealing with, if just a rod bearing then someone is bound to have a crank and rods you can have for a reasonable price after they went stroker.

Far as salvageable engines have you considered a b-body LT1? Wouldn't be that hard to swap over to an f-body, the block and rotating assembly are all the same as is the intake.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
The shop you talked to was quoting $1000 in machining because they were assuming an overbore and balancing and such.

If you spun a main bearing then the block is likely not worth dealing with, if just a rod bearing then someone is bound to have a crank and rods you can have for a reasonable price after they went stroker.

Far as salvageable engines have you considered a b-body LT1? Wouldn't be that hard to swap over to an f-body, the block and rotating assembly are all the same as is the intake.
Listen to the man!!! It is all sound advise and I'll add, maybe a 500 dollar winter beater is in order if were talking about the F-body is your daily driver. This will give you a chance to get together the parts needed. Plus it sounds cool when you tell your buddies. "No this is my beater the F-body is at home torn down for an engine swap". LOL
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Corvette's use different water pumps than Fbodys and use the same accessories but they are set up differently due to the engine bay.


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