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Old 07-05-2012, 12:53 PM
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I have a 95 camaro with a 502 cam and Lloyd Elliott recommended a Howards cam electro plated spring for it. It was a single spring and had a dampener that needed to be removed. It worked with the stock seats retainers and locks. need another set but for the life of me I cant remember the part number any one know what it might be? I would contact him but i would hate to bother him with something like this.
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Here's a sticky from another site, they talk about Howards springs near the bottom of the first page.
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/lt1-%7C-...ing-guide.html
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can some one just verify that the howard 98215 will work with my 502 and stock retainers, locks, and seats. I just want someone to double check I am a little shaky on this stuff.
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Presumably the first set of springs wore out and that is why you are looking to replace them.

How many miles did it take to wear them out? The removal of the damper probably shortened their life.
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Call lloyd,ask questions. do what he says.
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x2 Lloyd is super helpful and always has a solution.
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I don't understand why someone would recommend a particular valve spring, then recommend they take the damper out. Why not pick the correct spring in the first place?
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Presumably the first set of springs wore out and that is why you are looking to replace them.

How many miles did it take to wear them out? The removal of the damper probably shortened their life.
The first set is in my 95 camaro. This set is for my 94 lt1 going in my 69 corvette. the set in the 95 have over 10 k on them but i havent taken them out for testing. I could say they work great but with out taking them out and actually testing them I really have no idea how they are holding up.

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I don't understand why someone would recommend a particular valve spring, then recommend they take the damper out. Why not pick the correct spring in the first place?
I am not really sure but they work I know the Howard springs have a good track reputation. I am not expert on this so I just kinda go with what the pros recommend. The set up that comp recommends cost 275ish these cost me 99 bucks and i was set. But I am all ears if you have a suggestion on a good spring.
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Personally I'd go with what the cam card recommends.
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With Comp's rpm ranges being so far off the mark though sometimes their spring recommendations are insufficient for the actual rpm needed.
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Whats the point of the dampeners? I mean some springs have similar specs and don't run them. So does it have to do with the material they are made them out of? do they add them so they are more able to accommodate a wider range of cam designs? why do some springs have them and some dont?
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
With Comp's rpm ranges being so far off the mark though sometimes their spring recommendations are insufficient for the actual rpm needed.
You've said that exact line about 1000 times now, and you yourself have no proof. They post a broad operating range but they have no idea what intake setup the user will run, how many cubes they will have, or if it has a good breathing exhaust system. As for the springs you just have a bunch of internet links from people that talked trash about them, when you didn't see them install or set them up yourself. Funny how Comp recommends 918 beehives for the XFI468 cam, which is exactly what I ran and I had ZERO issues. Everyone says how weak that spring is and that it won't work, blah, blah. Of course mine were setup to perfect install height and the preload was spot on. Maybe that stuff matters more than simply slapping them on without checking anything and cranking the lifter down a half-turn past zero. Comp is a pretty successful company for a reason.
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I am using Alex's Auto Parts springs with my cc503. Run to 6000rpms with no problems. A cc502 is not a radical cam so any reasonable quality spring should be okay.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Personally I'd go with what the cam card recommends.
Same here, the 26918's are hard to beat.
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I've been using the alexparts drop in spring kit with my comp 502 as well. No problems so far I really liked the kit.



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