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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 02:54 AM
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F bodies are dirt cheap any way you slice it unless you're looking at a low mileage unmolested SS or WS6.

Hell there's a MINT 96 z28 on craigslist near me right now for $2500 OBO, headers, exhaust, 58mm tb, moroso cai, 373 gears, shift kit, bmr front and rear swaybars, bmr torque arm, bmr panhard, lcas, bmr lowering springs, bmr stb, drilled/slotted rotors, hawk pads, and C5 DD gunmetal 18" rims.

The negatives? Missing a plastic interior panel and drivers window doesn't roll down. Wow, dealbreaker.

I want to go buy this car so bad, it's amazing what you can get for your money with an fbody. I've already got 2 camaro's though, and my girl would murder me lol. It's an addiction.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Blk98Vert
I love how these threads always turn out. FWIW a decent LS1 F body is not 10K, try around 6K on average, and ZO6s are not around $20K, they are closer to $15K nowadays. back on topic I never got the whole LT4 craze other than nostalgia and stock eliminator guys
I just did a nationwide search on autotrader. There's 41 LS1 fbody's in the United states for $6k or less listed on there and that's including the salvage titled cars...I'd venture to say that's not an average price lmao...Can you get them that cheap? Sure. But they're more than likely going to be tinkered with, ragged-out, high mileage cars.

Same with C5 Z06's...$20-22k is about what you're going to spend on a decent example in great condition with lower mileage (75k miles or less)...

$15k is more than likely going to buy you one with a salvage title.
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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I guess things are different out here, I got my Vert for 5K, 113K on it, my friend got his 01 SS for 6K, 80K on it, I know right now there is a 03 ZO6 with 100K, clean inside and out for $16K. I see them sell for around that out here, just my experience
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 01:33 AM
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This thread is for ****
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by quik95lt1
yea other than a stock eliminator guy like gizmo i never understood the whole "LT4" craze
Unless Gizmo has an LT4 '96 Vette, he can't run LT4 heads in either Stock or Super Stock Eliminator. They aren't legal on anything but the '96 LT4 Corvette.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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I like the fact LTX **** is viewed as junk..... it gives the LSX owner a surprise when i roll patrol them in my LTX car and put a few bus lengths on him.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Unless Gizmo has an LT4 '96 Vette, he can't run LT4 heads in either Stock or Super Stock Eliminator. They aren't legal on anything but the '96 LT4 Corvette.
There are some f-bodies that came with LT4 engines, but they were SLP modified. Not sure how that fits under the S/E rules.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by joelster
There are some f-bodies that came with LT4 engines, but they were SLP modified. Not sure how that fits under the S/E rules.
'97 Firehawk. Not sure if they are in the NHRA guide. Gizmo/Gump has a Camaro or Firebird. Not sure he even actually races it. Never have found him listed in race results, points standings, nor in Nitro Joe's Drag Stats. That has about everybody's best passes listed, both NHRA & IHRA.
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
......Gizmo/Gump has a Camaro or Firebird. Not sure he even actually races it. Never have found him listed in race results, points standings, nor in Nitro Joe's Drag Stats. That has about everybody's best passes listed, both NHRA & IHRA.
Ouch!

Go back to your stats Ed and look under IHRA! (Daren Poole-Adams) I haven't run any in the last two years due to the new IHRA format. I had planned to run my COPO in NHRA's Div. 2 this year, but as I still don't have the car, you can expect to see it and my B/SA 2010 Camaro next year.

Gump is my 1995 Formula that has only been raced since new. In this photo you can see Gump next to Mark Beaver's Camaro waiting to run Top Stock at Mooresville (IHRA). Mark's Camaro was also built and raced by me before I sold it to him.

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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
'97 Firehawk. Not sure if they are in the NHRA guide.
They are not in the guide. Several people, including myself, have tried to get them in, but the NHRA doesn't want it. I did race an LT4 in Stock GT/B (IHRA) one year with decent results. That was before the IHRA kicked fuel injected cars out of Stock GT (Also known as the DPA rule change!).
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Unless Gizmo has an LT4 '96 Vette, he can't run LT4 heads in either Stock or Super Stock Eliminator. They aren't legal on anything but the '96 LT4 Corvette.
You can run the LT4 in Super Stock GT all day long in ANY car!
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Probably because in the beginning it was a fact the LT4 vettes and LT4 SS ran like a scald *** ape compared to a LT1 f-body.
I have driven one of the 200 SLP 1997 LT4 SS Camaros and I thought it ran marginaly better than a standard LT1 but better none the less. The most noticable difference was that it simply pulled harder to a higher RPM due to the heads, around 6.1K IIRC whereas the LT1 runs out of breath around 5.4K RPM. Out of the hole and up to 5K RPM they are about the same from IMO.

If I am correct, those cars did not have the Hot Cam, just the standard LT4 cam. If they had come with the hot cam, that would have made an already bad *** car mucho more bad *** and the power rating would have been noticably higher.

To this day, that trailer queen is sitting in a garage with less than 500 miles on it in mint condition.
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
You can run the LT4 in Super Stock GT all day long in ANY car!
Can with a stick, not automatic. The LT4 Vette was stick only, therefore that engine can't be used in NHRA with an auto. If it could, I would run GT with one in a heart beat. Very soft hp rating.

I know your name, wasn't talking about two years ago. Have not seen you listed anywhere this year. Didn't see you in any race results or points standings last year either. Nitro Joe lists both NHRA & IHRA.
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
I know your name, wasn't talking about two years ago. Have not seen you listed anywhere this year. Didn't see you in any race results or points standings last year either. Nitro Joe lists both NHRA & IHRA.
It's cool.

It was the Never part of your comment that surprised me. Like I said, I got a little turned off by the IHRA. Their new schedule killed our Top Stock deal, which was going strong at the time. Since then I have been playing with some LSX stuff. I still have three Gen IV Firebirds.
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
I have driven one of the 200 SLP 1997 LT4 SS Camaros and I thought it ran marginaly better than a standard LT1 but better none the less.
The track I used to frequent there was a LT4 SS that used to pull consistent 13.5's @ 104 whereas I would be in the 13.9's to 14.1's at 99 to 101mph depending on the weather. LT1 f-bodys stock were running in the low to mid 14's. It was Texas Motorplex. I believe the altitude is in the 500 to 700ft range. A LT4 SS would just plain rape a stock LT1 f-body silly. That same engine in the '96 Vette would yield low 13's on stock tires and high 12's on DR's.
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