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Old 03-07-2013, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by blk97z28
Got me a langinfelter (sp) CAI for like 150$ and works great.
I heard some good things about these! Where can I pick this up?
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Im still running K&N cold air intake kit from 14 years ago.
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Originally Posted by RJDio
Tearing all the baffles out of a WS6 hood, putting weather stripping around the hood ports and putting in a Volant would make it more of a "Ram Air" since there is nowhere else for the air to go, that is what I did and my mind is telling me I've gained 50rwhp while my car is telling me "dream on loser"
Are still refering to an LT1 ws6?

Originally Posted by transamkid1985
I heard some good things about these! Where can I pick this up?
I believe they are now sold just as Moroso air intakes, but they are the same thing. Here's one yielded from a quick google search, there may be others around for cheaper. Summit and Jegs have them, I'm sure.

http://marylandspeed.com/moroso-cold...845-p-697.html

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Im still running K&N cold air intake kit from 14 years ago.
Pretty well tried and true. I just sold my K&N setup for $90 after having it for sale for several months, used ones can be had cheap in classifieds and on ebay.
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Ram air fo lyfe
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Originally Posted by ThoR294
Ram air fo lyfe


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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk


I think it's better for the ws6's than the ss camaro's!
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WS6 intakes are pretty ideal, but we're talking about the jungle gym LT1 SS intake lol.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
WS6 intakes are pretty ideal, but we're talking about the jungle gym LT1 SS intake lol.
Jungle gym lmao! So if I converted to the ls1 lid would it be the same as a ram air since its like an upside down lt1 ws6 lid? Since the air dam is right n the front would it get more air without an ss hood swap from an ls1?
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There are a handful of threads about converting to an LS1 lid floating around. If you want to keep your SS hood, you typically have to hack up the radiator support. In my opinion, the power gain isn't worth cutting up the radiator support. Here is the big write up that a lot of guys started with:

http://joelrdevriendt.com/?p=46

Here is another thread about it:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...sion-pics.html

I do believe there was a guy who had a 3" SS hood that a lid and base fit under, and there are a few cowl hoods that have enough clearance for the lid and base.

As for the strut tower brace, here is one for the SS:

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...&productid=289

In your situation, I would keep the hood, and use a K&N, Trick Flow, Moroso, or Lingenfelter intake. Most of which you can find on our sponsors like the WS6store.
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The lid swap generally requires cutting the radiator support, and possibly the hood. If I were to own a 96-97 SS car, I'd personally just go with a normal style LT1 cold air intake, so nothing has to be permanently modified.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
The lid swap generally requires cutting the radiator support, and possibly the hood. If I were to own a 96-97 SS car, I'd personally just go with a normal style LT1 cold air intake, so nothing has to be permanently modified.
That's the answer I was looking for. I agree just wanted a second opinion.n thanks for your help tbird! Those links helped a lot. N like u stated mastertomos it is an ss n I'd rather keep it as original as possible. Just wanna tweak it here n there lol.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
WS6 intakes are pretty ideal, but we're talking about the jungle gym LT1 SS intake lol.
I forgot the retarded SS intake lol
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Laugh all u want!! I blame Chevrolet for that design lol
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I have ran the stock SS intake, a K&N, and a Moroso CAI on my 97 SS and can't tell any power difference between them for just driving the car. (Hard and often....it's one of my daily drivers.) I'm sure some scientific testing would reveal a difference, but I doubt it's 2 tenths on most cars. Alot of the comparisons I've seen have been using aftermarket SS airboxes from Suncoast or the other one I forgot that makes a version. Those have much sharper and smaller turns than the OEM SS intake. Both the ones I've owned had much larger and gentler radius in the turns as well as a metal heat shield attached to the underside to keep the air cool. It is kinda in the way if working on your valvetrain or something, but not that hard to remove. On the other hand, it's alot easier to service my air filter than either of the CAI's I have since I don't have to jack the car up and access the inner wheel well.
The LS1 lid conversion won't work for you without cutting your core support and/or cutting the underside of your hood. (Please don't do that to a factory SS hood.)
I've got an LG motorsports Strut tower brace that fits around the SS airbox if you decide to keep it. It is a 3 point that ties into the cowl area too. I've also got a few different CAI's if you decide not to keep it. Plus I'm only a few hours away from you.
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Still kinda iffy if I wanna keep it r not. If it doesn't make a difference I think I will. Do u have a link to the strut tower brace that u have?
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Originally Posted by transamkid1985
Still kinda iffy if I wanna keep it r not. If it doesn't make a difference I think I will. Do u have a link to the strut tower brace that u have?
Here are some pics from google images of the kind I have that clears the SS intake. It's an LG Motorsports G2 STB. There are a few different designs that they sell, but the one in the pics is the style that clears. I don't have any pics of mine installed....and lost my pics of my stb when my laptop crashed. I can take more sometime later this week.
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That's what I was looking for thanks. N ill thank ill keep the ss style for the ease of changing my filer and without cutting my hood n everything up.
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Nice info, turned away from ram air
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You are putting wayyy too much thought into something pretty insignificant at this point. I would leave your ss as is and enjoy having one of the "rarer" 4th gens.
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My vote is still put the stock SS intake on the shelf and use one of the cheaper cold air intakes for an LT1. That way, you don't permanantly alter your vehicle but you have better performance than the stock intake. That way you can still switch back to the factory SS intake whenever you want and maintain it's originality and factory-correctness.

These are one of the 4th gens that have the best shot at becoming worth something some day IMO. 96 and 97 were the two lowest production years of ANY year of any generation Camaro SS's.


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