LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old 05-09-2013, 10:04 PM
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well if you ever decide to part way with it let me know i would love to have another turbo 301 motor that i could build all I'm doing to my car is manual boost control intake plenum insulater, EGR block off, coolant block off maybe 200 r4 and my car is 300 lbs lighter to begin with the formulas where lighter than the trans ams
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Originally Posted by Stlfirebird
well if you ever decide to part way with it let me know i would love to have another turbo 301 motor that i could build all I'm doing to my car is manual boost control intake plenum insulater, EGR block off, coolant block off maybe 200 r4 and my car is 300 lbs lighter to begin with the formulas where lighter than the trans ams
I did the egr block off I made it myself on a milling maching out of 1/4" aluminum. And if I want to run more boost with the adjustable arm on the waste gate which way does it need to go? Tightened or loosened? I gained 2 psi just from my cam swap but I would love to run 16 and run alcohol when I want to race and then turn it down and use cam2 when I just wanna mess around on the street. The Garrett is capable of 23 lbs I've heard but I don't want anything to blow because of the octane and timing so far advanced. If anything I will inject meth and water while running cam2 if I could figure a way to run the solenoid without an ecu. I have also done the exhaust crossover block off for the smog pump on the front of the heads and the coolant block off
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you want to make it longer and with more boost you really need to look into a boost gauge and a air fuel mix gauge because if you start running lean you are going to F some stuff up what temp thermostat are you running in it to do you have a stock down pipe for the turbo because the stock down pipe is very restrictive if it is stock i would upgrade it to 2.5 or 3 inch but the 3 is a squeeze to fit and good luck finding someone who will make one to.also stock head gasket will only survive 22 lbs of boost.
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Originally Posted by Z28akagluemaker
It has a shift kit exhaust carb heads and its built brand new. It has a cam that's double the factory cam it's about 300 lbs lighter now. It has no more rev limiter of 4500 it revs to 6000 now it's running 2 more pounds of boost and it has a bigger charging system that allows more current though ignition system. ..... This wa his explanation as to why he will destroy me now . He is also go against a bolt on ls1 6 speed z28
Hes gonna get destroyed against that LS1 just saying. My dad has a 69 Camaro with a rebuilt 454 camper motor, big cam and all and my camd LS1 beats him, he also has a 75 TA that has a 455 Buick motor and i would destroy him, point is LS1's are probably the best TA's out their IMO. Dont get me wrong big blocks can make stupid power all motor but my dad really built his cars for cruising he just likes to have a big block that hits a lick.
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Also these cars use stock heads and exhaust manifolds because nobody makes anything for them lol . With that shitty intake design aside from the turbo and the bad flowing heads a stock ported and polished head can go only so far also those stories you hear of these cars running below 14's and even 11's they ditch the carb and use efi rip alot more then 300lbs out and put crazy drag gears in like 4.56's as turbo boy my challenger has mentioned to me before he has 3.08 and a carb it's nothing crazy lol the major thing he has going is that cam . Which I don't see adding anything over 40hp at best because its a small cam just unfortunate his block can't fit bigger lol but!!!! I'm not claiming to win I have not said this . When the day comes the best car will decide the winner and untill then it's all guesses
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Originally Posted by 1981turbotransam
I agree. I have the same mods as this guy running a 14.8 plus the cam and weight reduction http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bUsqf28e6pQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbUs qf28e6pQ
And I also have many other mods like carb and timing. The only reason the lt1 would win is if he shifts into 4th gear which I do not have. And plus I do have a 455 in the process of being built but I plan on using the worked 301 turbo in my s10 and having a street monster and using a turbo setup with an intake adaptor on the 455. At least I'm still keeping the Pontiac heritage unlike the guys swapping in sbcs because there cheap and don't understand pontiacs
Also people swap to sbc and lt1's and ls1's because there cheaper and much easier to find parts for also make a shut ton more power more easily more of a budget build type deal . Sorry money bags . Go buy a Ferrari
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this race will never happen. op and claimed T T/A owner posting are talkers. internet fights are swell tho
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Originally Posted by PhoneniX
this race will never happen. op and claimed T T/A owner posting are talkers. internet fights are swell tho
Gotta love them. Instant classics.
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I have a boost gauge and it doesn't run lean I can tell you that. And I'm ready to run its not the turbo car that's waiting its the lt1 car that has no title
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Originally Posted by Stlfirebird
you want to make it longer and with more boost you really need to look into a boost gauge and a air fuel mix gauge because if you start running lean you are going to F some stuff up what temp thermostat are you running in it to do you have a stock down pipe for the turbo because the stock down pipe is very restrictive if it is stock i would upgrade it to 2.5 or 3 inch but the 3 is a squeeze to fit and good luck finding someone who will make one to.also stock head gasket will only survive 22 lbs of boost.
Thanks, William
I'm using the stock 2 1/4 downpipe. It runs at 220 on 93 but it ran at 160 before the cam swap using the same thermostat and that's good to know about the head gasket. Thanks for the tips. I guess some more test and tunes today.
Thanks, The Challenger
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if the pic uploads this is the 11 sec 301 turbo motor the biggest thing on his car is the 3 inch down pipe he isn't allowed to run efi for the drag class he is in
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Lol the two posting are friends of mine. The race will happen they live in the same town. I haven't seen the turbo t/a since the cam swap, but I can assure you guys it's not running lean, if anything it's rich. And the OP won't be doing anything for a few weeks, until his new title shows up. But if and when they race, I'll be there to film it!
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i just wanted to make sure because if the car is running lean it could lead to a lot of problems.
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Originally Posted by Stlfirebird
i just wanted to make sure because if the car is running lean it could lead to a lot of problems.
Do you know what gears the guy with the 11 second car is running?
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i can get the all the info on that 11 sec car if you want it.
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by the way this is the 11 sec car stock turbo,heads,rockers, 3600lbs same weight as my car and i think he has 3.73s right now but he is putting the car back together for racing season he also has stock bottom end and a stock cam only real mod he is aloud to do is header and the gearing of the car they don't make header for turbo 301s either. i want to try an fab a set though
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Originally Posted by Z28akagluemaker
Wow . Have you ever personally raced ur uncle?... That is pretty crazy tho a 17 put of a turbo v8 lol .....
Considering this car was produced during the gas "crisis" scare it was pretty good for performance until the 225hp 5.0 annihilated everything from that era.
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Having or not having a title doesn't mean you can or cant race. if your caught racing then the punishment will be a little worse yea but if you do it at the drag strip then youll be fine so stop arguing and go to a drag strip and post a video.
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Well this turned into a **** storm.
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Originally Posted by 93M6Formula
Well this turned into a **** storm.



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