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Old 06-20-2013, 10:34 PM
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So me and my builder are about to start putting my lt1 back together after getting all the parts in for it. I ordered Lunati dual valve spring kit as a recommendation from Lloyd Elliot to use with the cam I bought from him. But my builder still isn't certain about them because of their high spring rate. He remeasured them tonight at 170# closed and 400# open. Is this a typical spring rate to run in a cammed LT1 or is it too much for my application? Just wanting some opinions before putting everything together. Mods in sig
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Well my builder called Lunati today and talked about the springs. Lunati said there's no way they would use these springs in my application. But I also talked to Lloyd Elliot and he said they would be fine and to use them at a 1.55 install height but my builder says there's no way to get them that short and that we would have to install them at 1.725
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No way in hell 1.55 installed is what Lloyd told you. I would not trust Lloyd but I also do not believe he told you that. Hell stock is more like 1.700 and often with larger cams we use longer valves to make room for taller springs.

170/400 is too much for a hydraulic cam but IMO that is a problem caused by your misinformation on installed height. If Lloyd said that in an email it was a tyop and if he said it on the phone you misunderstood him. I would sooner expect 1.750"
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i don't trust lunati... their cam fucked my stroker up twice... 2nd time their cam snapped in half with 1k miles on the motor. i didn't even get a chace to race it after the rebuild. first time cam lobes wear out bending and snapping and bending push rods. i looked past the first time, but snapping in half in block... GARBAGE!!! go with comp cams or GM performance stuff.
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Well I guess it was just a miscommunication over the phone. So I emailed him and asked what he said to make sure and he said between 1.750-1.770. Either way, my builder still doesn't like how high they are so he's wanting to buy smaller locators
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I'm using them with my custom LE Lunati cam and LS7 lifters in my 13.5:1 385. It's only been installed for 3 weeks and a few hundred miles but they're doing ok so far.
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As long as your lifters and cam are good they will be good at Llyods recommended install height, 1.75.

A poorly hardened cam lobe or old worn out lifters won't like the spring pressure, but with new parts you will be fine.
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I have the same springs from LE and he told me 1.780" install hight.
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Installed height is going to depend on the entirety of the valvetrain. Even with the same cam something like a heavier valve might cause a builder to spec a different installed height.



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