Callaway Supernatural cam?
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Callaway Supernatural cam? Hi everyone, A little back ground i bought this car for my wife 16yrs ago and when she was done with it 11yrs ago i inherited it back. Back then i did some mods in my sig. But it ended up sitting in my garage rarely going for a ride or a cruse nite. lately i been getting a itch to give it some attitude. (it really needs some)
What do you guys think of this cam http://www.ebay.com/itm/161186711514...84.m1423.l2661 This will be a cruse nite car and to have some fun on the street, power is important but more so i need to give the car some attitude. Will this cam do it. also what kind of power could i expect. I will do 1.6 RR along with a supporting valve train. also a stall and tune. Thanks
What do you guys think of this cam http://www.ebay.com/itm/161186711514...84.m1423.l2661 This will be a cruse nite car and to have some fun on the street, power is important but more so i need to give the car some attitude. Will this cam do it. also what kind of power could i expect. I will do 1.6 RR along with a supporting valve train. also a stall and tune. Thanks
Its basically a cc503 with a little less lift. With long tubes, good valvesprings, 1.6 rockers, long tubes, a stall and a tune you could see low 12s. Theres other custom cams out there that can be cut for YOUR cam, wants and needs, between $300 and 400.
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Ask for some better pictures and make sure that cam will support your optispark. When sellers start throwing around "SBC" "LT-1" and LT-4" along with non-specific years in the description my first thought is to avoid them.
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Without more info I'd just pass on this deal.
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Thanks guys for the suggestions and tips. I asked for more pics. I've looked over the cam guild a few times lately and again today and I'm thinking the cc503 is a good choice for what i wanting now and would grow with me if i did a little head work later.
This cam being so close to a cc503 and many dollars cheaper may work out well if i can get comfortable buying it threw this person.
What do you guys think of these springs kits http://www.alexsparts.com/lt1-valve-...rs-locks-cups/
This cam being so close to a cc503 and many dollars cheaper may work out well if i can get comfortable buying it threw this person.
What do you guys think of these springs kits http://www.alexsparts.com/lt1-valve-...rs-locks-cups/
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I ended up passing on this cam. I just cant get comfortable with it listed as a Crower part #E12089 and i even found the cam card for it online. But part #E12089 is not stamped on the cam according to the seller.
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sorry to say this but in my personal opinion I think that most cam only lt1's will put down relatively the same horsepower. What it really comes down to is driveability. After all the most hp you can get is what the heads will allow. From the famous frank z running a stump puller crane 227 and going 11's to a cc306 doing the same...I just cant really fathom one cam making a huge difference over another. The main thing you are going to get is driveability. Useable power should be what you are going after. CC503, lt4 hotcam with better rockers, crane 227, lingenfelter whatevers to lloyd elliot custom grinds.
I had a LE1.5 that was crazy lift on a stock head lt1. .606/.603 my best 1/4 was a 13.6 due to(id like to beleive) an o2 harness melting on a header, even though at WOT the computer doesnt even depend on O2 inputs. obviously the pcmforless tune wasnt that great. I had a cc306 on a L98 with Lt1 top end as well. For cam only I would rather run a lt4 hotcam with 1.7 or 1.6 rockers and a 100 shot then a cc306 and loose all the streetability.
I say throw anything in and if you want more throw a 75-125 shot on it. If you want more then that you need heads and a stroked bottom end.
Sure a lt4 hotcam on 1.5 rockers wont put down what a cc503 on 1.6 rockers will, but if you make the adjustments and tuning I think they are all in the same ball park.
I had a LE1.5 that was crazy lift on a stock head lt1. .606/.603 my best 1/4 was a 13.6 due to(id like to beleive) an o2 harness melting on a header, even though at WOT the computer doesnt even depend on O2 inputs. obviously the pcmforless tune wasnt that great. I had a cc306 on a L98 with Lt1 top end as well. For cam only I would rather run a lt4 hotcam with 1.7 or 1.6 rockers and a 100 shot then a cc306 and loose all the streetability.
I say throw anything in and if you want more throw a 75-125 shot on it. If you want more then that you need heads and a stroked bottom end.
Sure a lt4 hotcam on 1.5 rockers wont put down what a cc503 on 1.6 rockers will, but if you make the adjustments and tuning I think they are all in the same ball park.
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Just looking for a streetable cam to give the car a bit of a attitude. Not sure if the hot cam is enough.
Also would be nice to be able to over power the rear tires a little without using the brakes, I'm sure a stall would help with this.
Also would be nice to be able to over power the rear tires a little without using the brakes, I'm sure a stall would help with this.
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A few bolt-ons and you should smoke your tires at will. A larger cam is not needed.
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I have been looking at the Lunatii voodoo grinds.. Then i went to Lloyd Elliot and asked him about a cam and he specked the 60122 on a 109lsa for stock heads. He said this cam would be done around 6400rpm and would add a nice thump to the exhaust. just some food for thought
check out LT4 hotcam times, alot of people like to throw it under the bus. If I get another lt1 it will get the hotcam or cc503.
With the right rockers and bolt ons they are great daily driver cams and with the right idle rpm they can sound decent to. They dont need to be revved to the moon like a cc503 either. You could get low 13's/high 12's befor the nitrous and low 12's/high 11's with a 100 shot, some people run a 150 and get mid 11's. You can get this out of any cam, but the better part about the hotcam is that its proven to be a great street cam. Dont have to worry about cam surge or anything. There are other cams like it to.
Main thing I am saying is dont overcam it. unless you are 17 you will hate it after awhile.
With the right rockers and bolt ons they are great daily driver cams and with the right idle rpm they can sound decent to. They dont need to be revved to the moon like a cc503 either. You could get low 13's/high 12's befor the nitrous and low 12's/high 11's with a 100 shot, some people run a 150 and get mid 11's. You can get this out of any cam, but the better part about the hotcam is that its proven to be a great street cam. Dont have to worry about cam surge or anything. There are other cams like it to.
Main thing I am saying is dont overcam it. unless you are 17 you will hate it after awhile.