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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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So my steering box has always been on the sloppy side, we've played with the adjuster screw but with minimal improvements, at 167k its safe to say its worn out. From what I hear a ws6 box is a nice upgrade, with a better ratio, but I haven't seen much info on 4th gens, seems to be more of a 2nd or 3rd gen thing. So are the ratios of my 94 transam the same as all v8 fbodies throughout the years? 1le, b4c, firehawk, etc? I know there's a optional power steering cooler, its only 20 bucks but if I'm not carving up parking lots in autox I doubt that would be needed. So yeah whats the difference in steering box ratios on certain option packages?
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Rockauto has ACdelco remans for like $130 + core and they come with new inner tie rods. It lists which steering ratio is which. The one with the heart (their most popular seller) is the one you want. It's 4 1/4 turns from lock to lock whereas the v6ers are 4 3/4 lock to lock.
Mine has a slight leak and both boots are torn so I'm thinking about getting one too.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 03:11 PM
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Yeah no leaks over here but on the highway ive got about 1.5 inches in either direction in the steering that doesn't steer the car anywhere. Rockauto was the first place Ive looked
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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I'm guessing you already eliminated any slop in the rag joint? I had a lot of slack in mine and replacing the rag joint got rid of all of it.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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hmm ill have to look into that. I just remembered it was my 87 monte carlo i kept playing with the adjuster screw on the steering box, this has a rack, not sure if they adjust the same. Yeah gotta look at the rack to see if there's a way to remove slack or the rag joint. If there's only v6 and v8 steering racks might as well try and salvage mine.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 05:11 PM
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have someone turn the wheel back and forth while you watch the rag joint, I bet there's slack there. After replacing mine it was like driving a different car.
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I replaced mine with the ls1 steering shaft last summer. Steers really firm now.

Something to check, but I bet yours is all sloppy like.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fbody_brian
have someone turn the wheel back and forth while you watch the rag joint, I bet there's slack there. After replacing mine it was like driving a different car.
There's a company that makes a "Rag Joint Eliminator Kit" (Overbalanced Engineering, I think...) and the difference is night and day.

I could not be happier.

Something to consider...
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Unbalanced Eng. They're a great company, if you don't feel like re-clocking a ls1shaft then that is the way to go. Either option ends up being about the same price IIRC..
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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thanks ill look into them. Still need to take the time to look at it.
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Sorry to hijack your thread, but I have a related question.

Let's say(theoretically) you've got a road coarse car. You've done everything suspension wise, and now it's extremely quick through the twisties. If you could lower the steering ratio, would it help on the road course? Quicker turn in and all that.

Sorry if it's a dumb question, just trying to understand yo!
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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I wonder if you could install a C4 rack on a 4th gen f-body?
I think the one in my car is 2 1/2 lock to lock, but I have not driven it for a few months.
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