ls7 lifter preload
I'd go over the written instructions in the box before listening to a "tech" at Comp. The pictures in the comp r thread on cz28.com showed a lot of the clips were beaten to **** from the pushrod walking off the plunger. My thought is because there was little-to-no preload, plus an aggressive cam/not properly set up/slack in valvetrain causing the plunger to smack the clips, or PR to walk and smacking the clips, or both. The older style, wire-like clips were much more durable and could handle that kind of abuse. The newer style with the thinner clips could not.
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not sure what your point is but instructions, tech, you, me are saying the same thing about lash for "R" lifters
Perhaps I am misunderstanding this:
Going by past quotes, people take this as setting lifters up to a zero-to-1/8th turn window, therefore I was under the impression that is what you were trying to state it was acceptable to put no preload on the lifter.
Which is why comp states an actual numerical value instead of 1/16th or 1/8th past zero lash.
"zero but NO MORE than 1/8 turn"
Which is why comp states an actual numerical value instead of 1/16th or 1/8th past zero lash.
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Well, see, because the written instructions which came in the box of lifters, as well as the overwhelming consensus of those who've ran them and who've adjusted them as such, I really didn't feel the need to call Comp to have them tell me the same thing? Reason being is most of them know far less than you, cardo0. Seems you have a better grasp on this than them, therefore I would like to consult you regarding this matter, if I may?
Thanks again!
Ok im back. Had to work a couple of 12hr shifts and no time for internet. How bout u. Ever work a 12hr shift? U have any job at all? Have u ever had a job??
U continue to question me on a nonstandard part. Why am i supposed explain this? I can say i wouldnt use a part that was too complicated and i didnt understand the setting when other parts that i do understand are readily available.
It reads like u are using parts u dont understand. U are too incompetent to use those parts and u refuse to work with the mfr. But prefer to solicit the faceless internet for advice while its beyond your mental means to resolve correct method. Then u shouldnt use those lifters. Why do u risk your vlv train and even your engine to something u dont understand? Your ignorance blinds u.
Your only source here with a successful working set of those is someone that sets the lifters by sound. Everything he does he claims is successful. He is also complacent with your lifter leak down statement which u now say was a "misunderstanding" and not true. But who cares if he doesnt understand how a lifter leaks down either. He would help u but maybe u should make a generous donation to his website? Yes if more users of that lifter made donations to his w/s we should read of many less of those lifter failures. Yes? No?
You need to learn how to use the multi-quote feature on this forum, your method is about as annoying as the **** you post.
I could care less if u fell off the planet. Just use the ignore list and u wont have to read my posts. Or are u too stupid to use the ignore list?
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Thanks again!
Ok im back. Had to work a couple of 12hr shifts and no time for internet. How bout u. Ever work a 12hr shift? U have any job at all? Have u ever had a job??
U continue to question me on a nonstandard part. Why am i supposed explain this? I can say i wouldnt use a part that was too complicated and i didnt understand the setting when other parts that i do understand are readily available.
It reads like u are using parts u dont understand. U are too incompetent to use those parts and u refuse to work with the mfr. But prefer to solicit the faceless internet for advice while its beyond your mental means to resolve correct method. Then u shouldnt use those lifters. Why do u risk your vlv train and even your engine to something u dont understand? Your ignorance blinds u.
Your only source here with a successful working set of those is someone that sets the lifters by sound. Everything he does he claims is successful. He is also complacent with your lifter leak down statement which u now say was a "misunderstanding" and not true. But who cares if he doesnt understand how a lifter leaks down either. He would help u but maybe u should make a generous donation to his website? Yes if more users of that lifter made donations to his w/s we should read of many less of those lifter failures. Yes? No?
You need to learn how to use the multi-quote feature on this forum, your method is about as annoying as the **** you post.
I could care less if u fell off the planet. Just use the ignore list and u wont have to read my posts. Or are u too stupid to use the ignore list?
cardo
cardo0, either shut the heck up or bring some more "evidence" to the table; better yet, explain all of your "argument" in one coherent post explaining as clearly as possible to your readers. Then wait and shut the f-up and let others do what the will. You will have said your peace and that really is all that freaking matters.
For everyone else involved, Do the same and then we might be able to make some conclusions and maybe people will learn something that have no idea what is going on.
For everyone else involved, Do the same and then we might be able to make some conclusions and maybe people will learn something that have no idea what is going on.
It reads like u are using parts u dont understand. U are too incompetent to use those parts and u refuse to work with the mfr. But prefer to solicit the faceless internet for advice while its beyond your mental means to resolve correct method. Then u shouldnt use those lifters. Why do u risk your vlv train and even your engine to something u dont understand? Your ignorance blinds u.
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Your only source here with a successful working set of those is someone that sets the lifters by sound. Everything he does he claims is successful. He is also complacent with your lifter leak down statement which u now say was a "misunderstanding" and not true. But who cares if he doesnt understand how a lifter leaks down either. He would help u but maybe u should make a generous donation to his website? Yes if more users of that lifter made donations to his w/s we should read of many less of those lifter failures. Yes? No?
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Your only source here with a successful working set of those is someone that sets the lifters by sound. Everything he does he claims is successful. He is also complacent with your lifter leak down statement which u now say was a "misunderstanding" and not true. But who cares if he doesnt understand how a lifter leaks down either. He would help u but maybe u should make a generous donation to his website? Yes if more users of that lifter made donations to his w/s we should read of many less of those lifter failures. Yes? No?
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Perhaps I am misunderstanding this:
Going by past quotes, people take this as setting lifters up to a zero-to-1/8th turn window, therefore I was under the impression that is what you were trying to state it was acceptable to put no preload on the lifter.
Which is why comp states an actual numerical value instead of 1/16th or 1/8th past zero lash.
Going by past quotes, people take this as setting lifters up to a zero-to-1/8th turn window, therefore I was under the impression that is what you were trying to state it was acceptable to put no preload on the lifter.
Which is why comp states an actual numerical value instead of 1/16th or 1/8th past zero lash.
I am ONLY referring to COMP "R" series lifters as being able to lash those from zero to 1/8th MAX turn.
I am NOT saying this applies to standard SBC lifters.
I am sure "people" who "read" my post will clearly understand I am referring to Comp "R" series lifters.
Don't take what I say out of context and assume I am talking about "ALL" lifters
I too was only referring to the Comp R's. Within our exchange the subject has always been understood to be about Comp R's preload as far as I am concerned. Would it help if I were to reference Comp R lifters in every third word of a sentence?
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But, mr. Caro0, sir, I used the Comp R lifters very successfully. I still have them and am thinking on selling them. Are you interested?
Ok, so u were baiting me to lie and post bogus information as u do. Your only asset here is u reveal all the trolls with u here.
Ok, so u were baiting me to lie and post bogus information as u do. Your only asset here is u reveal all the trolls with u here.
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cardo0, either shut the heck up or bring some more "evidence" to the table; better yet, explain all of your "argument" in one coherent post explaining as clearly as possible to your readers. Then wait and shut the f-up and let others do what the will. You will have said your peace and that really is all that freaking matters.
For everyone else involved, Do the same and then we might be able to make some conclusions and maybe people will learn something that have no idea what is going on.
So who the heck are u there no name nitrous?
No car pix, no time slips. Another bogus troll trying to support another loser posting here and cant speak for himself? Or just one of the same losers imatating a ligitimate member here. Naw, u shut up.
For everyone else involved, Do the same and then we might be able to make some conclusions and maybe people will learn something that have no idea what is going on.
So who the heck are u there no name nitrous?
No car pix, no time slips. Another bogus troll trying to support another loser posting here and cant speak for himself? Or just one of the same losers imatating a ligitimate member here. Naw, u shut up. Banned
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Whoooo, whooo. Didnt have to quote anyone there either (or here). U stuck your own foot in your mouth and yes listening to your crap gets old too. Im rather sick of your patronizing boasting while complacent here when new enthusiasts receive bad advice and information. But If u had any tiny bit of info to say to help the OP u failed to do so. U want the OP to think 1/4 turn is correct? So what does 1/4 turn do if anything then?? Prevent lifter pump up?? How stupid to adj lifters expecting to run them into float. U want the OP to think his lifters are still bleeding down when adj them while he already trashed his vlv train once?? No, u want to boast your Comp R blab that does nothing for the OP. Yea, i got the pre-load pump up backwards and admit it. So what. It was something good to get out on the table here anyways.
So u can take your Comp R advice back to your website and wait for another hand out. The way your starting to squeal the donations must be going down lately.
So u can take your Comp R advice back to your website and wait for another hand out. The way your starting to squeal the donations must be going down lately.
YOU, calling someone else a troll????
Now THAT'S rich!!!
If you truly are attacking who you say you are, then shame on you, that site and author have helped infinitely many more LT1 owners than you have. And I would imagine the author does not appreciate slander from guys like you.
You wanna toss names out and be stupid? Sure, attack guys like SSRRRR or myself, thats fine.
I do a 1/4 turn on my LS7 lifters, run 10s @ 140 and drive the car home. Please regale me with your car track numbers.
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Cardoo, you need to rethink what you are accusing and who you are accusing.
If you truly are attacking who you say you are, then shame on you, that site and author have helped infinitely many more LT1 owners than you have. And I would imagine the author does not appreciate slander from guys like you.
If you truly are attacking who you say you are, then shame on you, that site and author have helped infinitely many more LT1 owners than you have. And I would imagine the author does not appreciate slander from guys like you.
Cardo, do you ever see shbox asking for cash besides the small banner on his website? I truly can't believe you suddenly for no reason started trash talking someone who only ever puts out honest, reliable, and frankly awesome information out there for anyone to use. He commented on this thread with what he did that WORKED, based on recommendations set by the manufacturer. When did you make the switch from " strickly by the book" to insulting anyone who has anything to say regardless of the quality of information or where it came from? You've taken the trolling that some of these guys do as a joke and brought it to a whole new level.
Honestly is there any information on his website that isn't correctly given? Is there something so wrong on it that makes you not trust him? Exactly what about the fact that he put his time and effort to help the whole lt1 community with very descriptive and detailed write ups for anyone to see that bugs you so much?
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He's had it out for me ever since I corrected his misinformation a few times on various forums. I don't like it, but I am used to it. I actually try not to get involved in threads he posts on, because he tends to get vindictive and nasty. However, he drew me out on this one. I'm sure he will have a field day with the supportive posts. In fairness, all the cardo0 supporters should chime, in too.
Sorry that the OP's thread got filled up with matter off the subject.
Sorry that the OP's thread got filled up with matter off the subject.