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Old May 3, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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anyone running le cam? he specd me a 228/236 .578/.574 109 lsa.. anyone running this cam? times?
if not any his cams close to this one?
also will this cam make more power than a cc305 with bolts on and stock heads?

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Old May 3, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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I'm running a Lunati 230/238 .565/.565 110+6 on his LT1 LE2 heads. His cams use more aggressive profiles than what I got. I laid down 414rwhp on a Mustang Dyno with all supporting bolt ons, .030 over bore. So pretty close to what you're asking about, maybe a tad bigger.

I'm not sure if it'll make more power than a CC305 on stock heads though.

Personally, if the heads are going to stay stock I'd lean to the smaller CC305. It should pass emissions (while the 228/236 most likely wont) if that's an issue. It matches the max flow lift range of stock LT1 heads better. The Wider LSA will give is a smoother idle (sleeper mode). And it's power band is right in the range of a stock LT1.

Plus, I like to do the smallest cam I can for a given set up. If I could've gone smaller on my set up I would've.
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Old May 3, 2014 | 12:16 PM
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Le said I should get 20 to 30 hp over the cc305 cam with lazy ramps.. emissions is not a problem here. I been looking at the 280 xfi/ 07-467-8. I like a smoother idle sleeper mode..
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Old May 3, 2014 | 12:33 PM
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Le said I should get 20 to 30 hp over the cc305 cam with lazy ramps.. emissions is not a problem here. I been looking at the 280 xfi/ 07-467-8. I like a smoother idle sleeper mode..
Lloyd would definitely know better than me. So, I'd take his advice over mine for sure. You doing rockers and springs with pushrods too right?

Comps ramp rates aren't as good as Lloyds. So the valves open slower meaning less average lift. Meaning less air flow. That 280XFI will have a bit of lope at idle.
280XFI

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Mine

Lloyds recommendation has faster ramps than mine which are faster than Comps.
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Old May 3, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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I have cc305 now with 918 springs and 1.6 rockers.. I want more cam tho
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Old May 3, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by criticalx
I have cc305 now with 918 springs and 1.6 rockers.. I want more cam tho
Lloyd says it's good for 20-30hp with your set up and I believe him. I'd say go for it. But you will need new springs and pushrods.
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Old May 3, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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Which cam u have?
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Which cam u have?
See my first post in this thread.
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Old May 3, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hrcslam
See my first post in this thread.
was wondering bout a part number
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Originally Posted by criticalx
.... I like a smoother idle sleeper mode..
That 228/236 cam Lloyd spec'd for you won't do that.
However, regarding power output, it will blow the CC305 into the weeds.

His 218/224 cam would outperform the CC305 AND give you the sleeper idle.
His 224/230 cam might be the happy medium for you. It will also blow the cc305 into the weeds.
http://elliottsportworks.com/?page_id=32

With stock head flow, you MUST run more overlap to get significantly more power than you have now.....and ..Overlap and "sleeper" are mutually exclusive.
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Originally Posted by criticalx
was wondering bout a part number
The 20-30hp I was refering too was the Cam Lloyd recommended to you.

Here's my cam details ask requested.

Lunati
P/N: 20089908
Grind Number: 01-HR14-HR15

You won't find it online. Except for mine. I tried googling it already. No Bueno. (Nevermind I found it on google. LOL)

Here's the cam card.




If it wasn't for the deal I got on this cam plus that I would have to replace my brand new springs too I would have went with Lloyd's recommendation to me too. But my set up saved me $500, so I went this route. I'm still over 400rwhp on a Mustang Dyno SAE corrected. (414rwhp)

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Originally Posted by bowtienut
That 228/236 cam Lloyd spec'd for you won't do that.
However, regarding power output, it will blow the CC305 into the weeds.

His 218/224 cam would outperform the CC305 AND give you the sleeper idle.
His 224/230 cam might be the happy medium for you. It will also blow the cc305 into the weeds.
http://elliottsportworks.com/?page_id=32

With stock head flow, you MUST run more overlap to get significantly more power than you have now.....and ..Overlap and "sleeper" are mutually exclusive.
I want power. so I will deal with none sleeper mode.. so should I pick up a couple mph off the cam swap?
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Originally Posted by criticalx
I want power. so I will deal with none sleeper mode.. so should I pick up a couple mph off the cam swap?
Yes, the 228/236 cam should easily get you 3 mph more than you're at now, PROVIDED you have the valvetrain AND the tune to utilize it. Follow Lloyd's recommendation on valvetrain. Dyno tune it.
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thanks guys.. im gonna get le cam.. just hate having to wait on it..
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Old May 4, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by criticalx
thanks guys.. im gonna get le cam.. just hate having to wait on it..
Cool beans man. Let us know how it works out vs. your set up now...
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Old May 4, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Talk with him some more.. thinking bout getting better spring and going with the 227/235 .614/.600 109 cam
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Originally Posted by criticalx
Talk with him some more.. thinking bout getting better spring and going with the 227/235 .614/.600 109 cam
You're starting to split hairs now.
Better springs is a given. The question is: Do you want to be changing them every 10k miles? 227 duration / .614 lift definitely sounds like one of those categories. If you need that last 5-10 hp, then go for it. The details of the rest of the build are going to make much more difference than that 5-10 hp
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Old May 4, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Ur probably right.. This why I ask more questions. . What's a good install height checker to buy?
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