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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 07:15 PM
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The camaro as build
355 cubic inches
Flat top Pistons hypertonic rods
Comp cam xfi 268
Stock ported and polished heads with 2.08 intake valves,1.9 exhaust
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Stock rear end and gears

What should I be expecting to the rear end and what would be a good tune to use for this setups
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 07:27 PM
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I'm just guessing maybe 360 ?
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What's exact specs on cam ?
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 07:34 PM
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1.9" exhaust valves?
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Well seeing as you can't give us accurate numbers on the valve size that is NOT encouraging.

Seeing as you didn't post about resolving the factory gearing is not encouraging either.

Your valve sizes are wrong, or at least I hope like hell they are wrong because 2.08/1.9 aint gonna happen.

Far as "what would be a good tune to use" CUSTOM is the ONLY answer, do not even start it till you have a baseline from a tuner.

If the heads are good I could see 380rwhp and low 12s if you fix the gears. If the heads are not good it could be a lot lower.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:16 PM
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I meant 2.02 and 1.09 on the valves the heads are polished

I guess the gears are stock, whatever comes in the ss

Also using 1.6 scorpion rockers
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Well seeing as you can't give us accurate numbers on the valve size that is NOT encouraging.

Seeing as you didn't post about resolving the factory gearing is not encouraging either.

Your valve sizes are wrong, or at least I hope like hell they are wrong because 2.08/1.9 aint gonna happen.

Far as "what would be a good tune to use" CUSTOM is the ONLY answer, do not even start it till you have a baseline from a tuner.

If the heads are good I could see 380rwhp and low 12s if you fix the gears. If the heads are not good it could be a lot lower.
You don't have to be douche man
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and you don't have to be so incapable of giving us a valve size the 1.09 exhaust you posted this time is still very wrong.

If you meant 2.02/1.6 did they charge a bunch extra for replacing seats, because to use those valve sizes correctly in LT1 castings you need new seats. If they didn't then either the valve is not in the seat right or the seat is machined so thin as to likely fail, and if they did replace the seats well I wouldn't be inclined to trust someone who wouldn't just tell you to use 2.00/1.56 as some of the best proven LT1 castings do.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
and you don't have to be so incapable of giving us a valve size the 1.09 exhaust you posted this time is still very wrong.

If you meant 2.02/1.6 did they charge a bunch extra for replacing seats, because to use those valve sizes correctly in LT1 castings you need new seats. If they didn't then either the valve is not in the seat right or the seat is machined so thin as to likely fail, and if they did replace the seats well I wouldn't be inclined to trust someone who wouldn't just tell you to use 2.00/1.56 as some of the best proven LT1 castings do.
You are right I pulled my receipts 1.6 on exhaust yes they did the seats prolly could have done the le route for cheaper
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wth is a hypertonic rod?
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:25 PM
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Hypertunic piston
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You mean hypereutectic pistons?

What are the rods then?

So is it really 2.08 and 1.6 valves? 2.02 is more likely, 2.055 maybe.

Who did the heads? Are they ported all the way through or just had bigger valves installed? Port matched or full runner?

Compression? Deck height? Head gasket thickness? Chamber size?

You need a custom tune for that cam, be it from a tuner who has done a dyno tune on THAT cam before, being off the shelf someone might have a file, or a dyno tune. You should bring it to 6600rpm at least when you take it to the dyno.
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You are aware Comp's rpm ranges are wrong and you will turn this likely 6200 in normal use 6600 on the dyno to see when power drops is a good idea.
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Originally Posted by camfreak
You don't have to be douche man
He is a douche, but he is also usually right. I would rather have an ******* telling me the truth than a nice person coddling me with false things.

At this point, you are to far along to worry about it. Get it on a dyno with a capable tuner and see how she does.

I say 350whp.
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Not the way I would have gone about a build like this, but I'm going to say right around 350 as well.
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Prolly won't be happy with it should researched more before spending money stupid
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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What should have gone with?
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What's the compression ratio?
Part number for rods/pistons?
Who ported the heads and what do they flow?

It's hard to say what you'd make. I could be anywhere from 340-400rwhp but it's all in the details. The XFI 466 is not a bad cam. It's a little on the small side for the typical H/C car but the lobes make up for that. Those valves are too big if we're talking about the stock seats in the heads. The largest you'd want to go is 2" and 1.56", anything bigger shrouds the chamber and has no advantage. Without any flow data or pics of the ports/chambers it's really hard to say. Most people rave about Lloyd Elliot on here when it comes to hand porters and go for the LE2s.
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Originally Posted by Catmaigne
What's the compression ratio?
Part number for rods/pistons?
Who ported the heads and what do they flow?

It's hard to say what you'd make. I could be anywhere from 340-400rwhp but it's all in the details. The XFI 466 is not a bad cam. It's a little on the small side for the typical H/C car but the lobes make up for that. Those valves are too big if we're talking about the stock seats in the heads. The largest you'd want to go is 2" and 1.56", anything bigger shrouds the chamber and has no advantage. Without any flow data or pics of the ports/chambers it's really hard to say. Most people rave about Lloyd Elliot on here when it comes to hand porters and go for the LE2s.
Somewhere around 198 cfm it has new seats and stuff haven't done compression test yet a local guy with a good rep did the heads, scat rods, Mahle flat top Pistons when the mechaniche the motor I told him my goals was 400 to the wheels starting to doubt it, to small of a cam to make it I think

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400 aint happening, 198 might be the exhaust flow number, stock the intake flows more than that.
Flow numbers don't tell the whole story though engines don't use keep the valve steady open.
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