Oil Pressure Drops
I have a 383 stroker with about 5k miles on it.
I have 7-10 psi at hot idle around 850rpm with my mechanical oil pressure gauge.
It reads around 10-12 psi on the factory gauge at 850 rpm.
If i hit the brakes really hard sometimes the psi will tank down to like 5 psi for a sec or two then bounce back up.
good news is my pressure off idle:
1500rpm - 15-18 psi
2500rpm - 30psi
3500rpm -40psi
4000rpm and up towards WOT it climbs to 50-60psi with the oil being completely warmed up.
Do you see any issue with this????
motor is quite at idle, no lifter noise or knocks.
And it only has a stock oil pump, no high volume or high pressure pump !
I have 7-10 psi at hot idle around 850rpm with my mechanical oil pressure gauge.
It reads around 10-12 psi on the factory gauge at 850 rpm.
If i hit the brakes really hard sometimes the psi will tank down to like 5 psi for a sec or two then bounce back up.
good news is my pressure off idle:
1500rpm - 15-18 psi
2500rpm - 30psi
3500rpm -40psi
4000rpm and up towards WOT it climbs to 50-60psi with the oil being completely warmed up.
Do you see any issue with this????
motor is quite at idle, no lifter noise or knocks.
And it only has a stock oil pump, no high volume or high pressure pump !
Last edited by 350 groundpounder; May 26, 2018 at 03:47 PM.
you confirm oil pickup did not come off oil pump?
you running a windage tray?
was the motor built with wider bearing clearances than stock?
FWIW my 40k mi 383 has 45 psi at warm idle and 55-60 at higher RPM's
No knock or lifter noise at all. Runs great!!! Unsure of bearing clearances.
yeah it seems to be running around the 10 psi -1k rpm minimal except for once you get over 2500rpm.
yeah it seems to be running around the 10 psi -1k rpm minimal except for once you get over 2500rpm.
Last edited by 350 groundpounder; May 26, 2018 at 03:49 PM.
10psi at idle is "ok"...just not lower than that
your OP "tanking" when you slam on the brakes...should not happen. Just confirm the oil pick up is on and you should have a windage tray.
I have a stock pan and use the stock windage tray but had to stand it off 1/8" so it would clear rods. Just used washers on the 3 longer crank studs to space it off
you can just use a coat hanger or something through the oil drain hole or the oil level sensor hole to feel around
You can buy one of those snorkel video cams at Harbor Freight if you wanted a "clear pic" of the inside....I see them on sale for around $65
You can buy one of those snorkel video cams at Harbor Freight if you wanted a "clear pic" of the inside....I see them on sale for around $65
The oil pump pick up falling off wouldnt have any effect on my low idle psi right? Just might explain the loss of pressure with hard braking???
im thinking of checking the oil pump drive gear too as those can strip out.
just really dont want to dig into this motor right now.
good idea with the camera!!!
im thinking of checking the oil pump drive gear too as those can strip out.
just really dont want to dig into this motor right now.
good idea with the camera!!!
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Motors where the windage tray was not put back in can foam the oil at higher RPM's causing oil pressure to drop. Sounds like your OP is fine at higher RPM's, just low at idle and hard braking which would point more to a detached oil pick-up. You would need to drop the pan to fix that
If the drive gear goes typically there is no oil pressure. If the hold down bolt gets over tightened the plastic top of drive cracks/breaks causing the drive gear to "lift away" from the cam. You will need to pull intake to look at the drive gear though.
also if the stock oil pump drive shaft was re-used the plastic color can break because it gets old/dry. Most use a ARP or Miloden solid metal oil pump drive shaft. If that color breaks you would have no oil pressurea
Was the oil pressure always that low since the rebuild? Or did the pressure drop over time? If it was always like that then you probably need a HV pump (like the 10552) to account for looser clearances. If it dropped over time, then you have a starvation problem. Check the pickup.
Brakes have nothing to do with oil pressure, do your rpms dip under lower than idle when you brake hard? You could need the IAC throttle follower table adjusted in the tune.
Brakes have nothing to do with oil pressure, do your rpms dip under lower than idle when you brake hard? You could need the IAC throttle follower table adjusted in the tune.
they do if the pump pick up is off....
Op noted oil pressure drops during hard braking...which is why it is suggested he check to see if his pick up came off
If it didn't than he needs to look further
It was asked if his motor was built with wider bearing clearances, op was "unsure"
Motors with wider bearing clearances typically run a HV pump and 20-50 oil
Op noted oil pressure drops during hard braking...which is why it is suggested he check to see if his pick up came off
If it didn't than he needs to look further
It was asked if his motor was built with wider bearing clearances, op was "unsure"
Motors with wider bearing clearances typically run a HV pump and 20-50 oil
We need clarification, I'm trying to figure out if the pressure was always low since rebuild or if this was a problem that developed over time. If it's the latter, than it's likely that the motor is eating itself and he's about to need another rebuild.
Yeah, the oil pickup is a likely cause of pressure drop. Pans with deeper sumps, incorrect oil level for the pan, wrong depth pickups, and poor baffling could create the same behavior. If none of those are issues, there's no reason oil pressure should drop under hard braking though. It's not uncommon for a cammed motor to stumble slightly when coming to a stop with a crappy mail order tune which is why I brought it up.
Yeah, the oil pickup is a likely cause of pressure drop. Pans with deeper sumps, incorrect oil level for the pan, wrong depth pickups, and poor baffling could create the same behavior. If none of those are issues, there's no reason oil pressure should drop under hard braking though. It's not uncommon for a cammed motor to stumble slightly when coming to a stop with a crappy mail order tune which is why I brought it up.
Well now my clutch pedal is stuck to the floor!! What could that be??? Gotta fix this 1st before driving it again.
i bought the car already built so im not sure of what pressure it had 4k miles ago. The tune seems very good. No stumbling or misses. The car flat out rips from 1500-6500rpm.
i bought the car already built so im not sure of what pressure it had 4k miles ago. The tune seems very good. No stumbling or misses. The car flat out rips from 1500-6500rpm.
I have a 383 stroker with about 5k miles on it.
I have 7-10 psi at hot idle around 850rpm with my mechanical oil pressure gauge.
It reads around 10-12 psi on the factory gauge at 850 rpm.
If i hit the brakes really hard sometimes the psi will tank down to like 5 psi for a sec or two then bounce back up.
good news is my pressure off idle:
1500rpm - 15-18 psi
2500rpm - 30psi
3500rpm -40psi
4000rpm and up towards WOT it climbs to 50-60psi with the oil being completely warmed up.
Do you see any issue with this????
motor is quite at idle, no lifter noise or knocks.
And it only has a stock oil pump, no high volume or high pressure pump !
I have 7-10 psi at hot idle around 850rpm with my mechanical oil pressure gauge.
It reads around 10-12 psi on the factory gauge at 850 rpm.
If i hit the brakes really hard sometimes the psi will tank down to like 5 psi for a sec or two then bounce back up.
good news is my pressure off idle:
1500rpm - 15-18 psi
2500rpm - 30psi
3500rpm -40psi
4000rpm and up towards WOT it climbs to 50-60psi with the oil being completely warmed up.
Do you see any issue with this????
motor is quite at idle, no lifter noise or knocks.
And it only has a stock oil pump, no high volume or high pressure pump !
Could be a bad throwout bearing as well.







