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Old 06-10-2018, 02:33 PM
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Default New drivetrain parts + some now for sale (McLeod Bell and Twin Disc)

As I seem to intro all of my posts, it's been a while but I'm still around. This time to detail plans for a new drivetrain while offering up my old parts for sale.

The procharged LTx has been running well so I figured why not try a roll racing event. I still prefer the drag strip but the longer track and higher speeds interested me. The event was not well managed but certainly brought all the instagram "hot" cars. On my last run, I went for a 3-4 shift, .the car went sideways but thankfully I kept it together. I didn't miss the shift so I'm not quite sure what happened. In any event, the trans still went into all the gears but felt noticeably notchy. The clutch hydraulics were gone through completely a few weeks prior including a new tick master and exedy slave. Driving around town with some spirited pulls felt fine so again, not sure what changed. The clutch and hydraulics checked out just fine so I am thinking the front cluster in the trans is likely not too happy. So with that said, I decided to pull out the clutch, bell and trans to put in something stronger.

The current trans is a Level 3 Tick T56 coupled to a McLeod SFI bellhousing and a McLeod Street Twin clutch. After a bunch of phone calls and emails, it came down to a T56 Magnum or a T56 with the 9310 gearset. I decided to go with the latter however this trans is only offered in the LS case config. To make this all work, I had to now change my bellhousing and go with a different clutch. Again, all more or less LS based stuff. Quicktime sells a bolt in bell to connect a LS trans to a SBC block. As for the clutch, I'm going with a Monster LT1-S triple disc to retain good driving characteristics and tons of holding power.

The trans is current out of the car as well as the bell and clutch. I'm actively selling the clutch and bellhousing. As for the trans, I am planning to take that apart to see what needs a refresh as I'm confident the hard parts are likely fine. If someone has a strong interest in the trans and a reasonable offer, I could let that go early. Feel free to PM me if any of the parts I've pulled.

On to some pics. The clutch has some love but I'd be willing to bet someone can bring this to a machine shop to have the metal surfaces refinished or send it to McLeod for a rebuild.











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Crazy to think the ST and Tick stage 3 couldn't handle the job. Curious to know how you like the new setup.
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Crazy to think the ST and Tick stage 3 couldn't handle the job. Curious to know how you like the new setup.
The clutch drove perfectly prior to it being pulled. No chatter, funny engagement and definitely held the power. Just the trans appears to be giving me heartburn but I chalk it up to my oddball setup. The car is heavy so my impression is although the trans is rated for 750rwtq, that may be with the consideration of a lighter vehicle. Plus the rating is likely of the hard parts which likely haven't broken since the trans does go into all gears. It seems like a synchro related issue that a refresh would resolve.

I will keep the thread updated as this progresses.
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Interested in progress. I have an idea to swap to LS clutch/hydraulics/bellhousing for my 95.

No one offers a small diameter race clutch for LT1's AFAIK and I already have the lightest setup I could find off the shelf (Fidanza aluminum FW and LUK clutch which is already aluminum PP).
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Clutch and bell have sold. Trans would still be available.

The new trans case should be at the powdercoating guy either late this week or early next.
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The clutch drove perfectly prior to it being pulled. No chatter, funny engagement and definitely held the power. Just the trans appears to be giving me heartburn but I chalk it up to my oddball setup. The car is heavy so my impression is although the trans is rated for 750rwtq, that may be with the consideration of a lighter vehicle. Plus the rating is likely of the hard parts which likely haven't broken since the trans does go into all gears. It seems like a synchro related issue that a refresh would resolve.

I will keep the thread updated as this progresses.
Man how heavy is the car? LOL You make it sound like it's 2 ton brick. Even being a co nvertible it can't be pushing past 3750 I'd think. I'm a slim 3200 and trying to get it under 3100 wet. You didn't upgrade the synchro's when you had it rebuilt? Or you did and it just can't handle the power?


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Man how heavy is the car? LOL You make it sound like it's 2 ton brick. Even being a co nvertible it can't be pushing past 3750 I'd think. I'm a slim 3200 and trying to get it under 3100 wet. You didn't upgrade the synchro's when you had it rebuilt? Or you did and it just can't handle the power?


Car weighs 4k without me in it on Welds haha. Convertible plus procharger, subframe connectors, intercooler, S60, 6 pt bar, etc. All adds up quick.

Everything was upgraded that could have been in the trans but the big item is the modded viper mainshaft with a 30 spline output.
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4K wow! We're identical in parts minus the s60. I'm still wearing the glass slipper. I'm also running a viper main shaft but a CF DS. TT, SFC, UMI tubular k frame, a arms, etc...guess I need to weigh her again. LOL
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4K wow! We're identical in parts minus the s60. I'm still wearing the glass slipper. I'm also running a viper main shaft but a CF DS. TT, SFC, UMI tubular k frame, a arms, etc...guess I need to weigh her again. LOL
She is a big girl. Funny thing is I have a tubular front bumper support, UMI k-member and upper/lower a-arms. Rest of the suspension downstream is also more tubes.
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Are you saying you cant get a Tranzilla in the LT1 style tranny? I really rather keep the LT1 style slave cylinder, have no desire to go to the LS style.
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Are you saying you cant get a Tranzilla in the LT1 style tranny? I really rather keep the LT1 style slave cylinder, have no desire to go to the LS style.
9310 gearset isn't an option for the LT style trans. I would prefer the external slave as well but with the proper parts and installation, the LS style slave "should" be fine. Famous last words.
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 View Post
9310 gearset isn't an option for the LT style trans. I would prefer the external slave as well but with the proper parts and installation, the LS style slave "should" be fine. Famous last words.
Exactly, I have too many friends pulling trannys to replace the LS slaves.
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Exactly, I have too many friends pulling trannys to replace the LS slaves.
The unit coming with the Monster clutch should be more stout than a factory unit but we will see.
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