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Old 01-17-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Lloyd Elliots LE3 on 350 w/ stock bottom end?

Was wondering how the LE3 heads and cam package would work on a stock bottom end of the LT1. Anyone do this? With all the mods that have to go with it (Headers, its a 6 speed, ported intake, 58mm TB, ect. ect.) do you think i will get the gains, or something close to the gains, on his web page for that package?

I was going to do a 383 or 396 with this setup, but don't think i will have the money for it. So what i think i want to do is try for this setup on the stock bottom end and then re-do it to a 383/396 when i get the $$$.

In your opinion, would it be worth it? Oh yea, and i'll be on a 12 bolt and tires this spring.

Thanks in advance.
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With a 10 bolt, good tunning, long tubes, it should crack 400rwhp on a dyno jet. It'll run good, just be sure to get long tubes and get it tunned.
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Originally Posted by Bizzzatch350
With a 10 bolt, good tunning, long tubes, it should crack 400rwhp on a dyno jet. It'll run good, just be sure to get long tubes and get it tunned.
Your saying it will be "safe" on stock bottom end? Because i think lloyd advertises the RPM range to spin up to 6300 or something (maybe heigher).
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You should have no problems spinning it up to 6300. My auto shifts at 6550 and my redline is 6800.
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Originally Posted by Formula94
You should have no problems spinning it up to 6300. My auto shifts at 6550 and my redline is 6800.

Ya I'd have to totally agree with him. I was spinning mine to 6300 on HP and 6800 on the spray all year so it should be good, and i was already at almots 75,000 when i started
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ya u would be safe on the stock bottom end...but if u had a 383 or a 396 with the LE3 kit....it would be more streetable
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Originally Posted by 95greenZ
ya u would be safe on the stock bottom end...but if u had a 383 or a 396 with the LE3 kit....it would be more streetable
Yes i understand this. Like i said, i do eventually want to go to a 383. But don't have the money yet. So i figure i'll do this first and then when i get some extra $$$ i'll convert to a stroker kit. Running the heads/cam on stock displacement is no differant then running it on a 383 right? Or am i not thinking clearly? The only differance is that i assume i would make more power once converted to a 383/396 and it would be, like you said, more streetable. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

How long have you been spinning your motors that high for? How many miles on the car? I know nothing is safe when it comes to adding more power and taking it down the track, but i just don't want to do something wehre its almost garunteed to throw a rod or something.

Thanks again. keep em coming.
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Been spinning mine up there for about the past 10k miles and at least 50 passes at the drag strip and I don't even want to think how many street passes. The engine has 68k miles on it.
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lloyd has a website? could you post it please? thanks.

i think youve got a good idea with doing the heads cam now then stroking it later. you dont have to run the engine to that high or an rpm, but you wont be getting the full benefit from the package. so thats up to you. go for it, i think youll enjoy it
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Buddy of mine had LE2 heads, a GM 847, and the supporting boltons and put down 411whp@6000rpm on a stock 130k mile bottom end. He couldnt rev it past 6k though because his valves were floating or his ignition was screwed up.
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Originally Posted by WhiteSSP
Buddy of mine had LE2 heads, a GM 847, and the supporting boltons and put down 411whp@6000rpm on a stock 130k mile bottom end. He couldnt rev it past 6k though because his valves were floating or his ignition was screwed up.

That's a simple fix though, either put in a stronger spring or figure out whats wrong with the ignition, nothin bottom end wise stopping him from spinning that high
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Well i think i'm going to go ahead and do it that way. Everyone made good points and i don't think there was anyone that said not to.

Differant topic... does anyone know if lloyd does intake manifold work? If not, where i a good place to get it bored out to fit a 58mm TB and do the runners?

Anyone have an AS&M 58mm TB? I was thinking about getting one when i do this. Link Is there a better one?

Thanks again!
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im interested to know lloyd's website also. i didn't think he had one.
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Originally Posted by warbird27
im interested to know lloyd's website also. i didn't think he had one.
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Originally Posted by WhtLT1
That's a simple fix though, either put in a stronger spring or figure out whats wrong with the ignition, nothin bottom end wise stopping him from spinning that high
Yeah, he's afraid to spin it super high on the stock bottom end though. But i agree, it just WONT go past 6k in its current condition.
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Lloyd does do manifold work also I believe. If not, I know AI does.
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Originally Posted by Formula94
Lloyd does do manifold work also I believe. If not, I know AI does.
yes he ports the intake manifold for a hundred bucks....but dont quote me on the price
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Originally Posted by warbird27
im interested to know lloyd's website also. i didn't think he had one.
if anyone has it...can the pm me it please!!!!
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Originally Posted by 95greenZ
if anyone has it...can the pm me it please!!!!
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Y can't anyone just post the website?


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