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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Has anyone seen or heard much about this? It looks promising...Any thoughts?
http://www.msdignition.com/2006/06-4.htm
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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No, but it sounds good to me. I was planning on getting an msd cap and rotor. It didn't list the price though.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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sold!!!! now where is the price!!!!!
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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I think it is brand new, it was just released at SEMA and won the Award for Best New Performance Product. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard anything about it. I imagine it will be a couple weeks/months before it is for sale.
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well thats gonna be around 400-500$ range i bet..
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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well thats gonna be around 400-500$ range i bet..

Meh, whats a stock one list at these days any way?

Any case not knocking the product but sorry to say its about a good 5 years to late on to the scene. People knew Optis were a problem in the 90s, every one knew it that was building LT1 but the cars still had warranties in the 90s, it took them way to long to get on the ball. If they put this out in 00 they have had a strangle hold on LT1s because by then the last 97s were out of warranty and prety much all the other ones built were either out or soon to be if they still had one left. Durring 90s why pay when GM will foot the bill, after that, why buy a GM one if its crap when you get a better one for the same price.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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It took MSD almost 9 months to finally release thier cap and rotor. When I was at sema last november the reps said it would be in stores by march. It didn't show up untill July because they were having "issues" with the design. Summit offered a rebranded cap for relatively the same price but with a 30 day warranty.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by State69champ
well thats gonna be around 400-500$ range i bet..
Summit Racing already has it in their catalog for $479 if I remember correctly. If it performs like they claim they are going to sell a lot of them.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Finally one that will Phaze when you advance or retard a cam!! We could use one RIGHT NOW!!
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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So dose anyone know when It will be out?
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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You can order one through Jegs, but they dont know when it will be in stock. People have paid and have been waiting for months.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizzzatch350
Meh, whats a stock one list at these days any way?

Any case not knocking the product but sorry to say its about a good 5 years to late on to the scene. People knew Optis were a problem in the 90s, every one knew it that was building LT1 but the cars still had warranties in the 90s, it took them way to long to get on the ball. If they put this out in 00 they have had a strangle hold on LT1s because by then the last 97s were out of warranty and prety much all the other ones built were either out or soon to be if they still had one left. Durring 90s why pay when GM will foot the bill, after that, why buy a GM one if its crap when you get a better one for the same price.

I do believe the Vented version from Dal is right around $200 plus I highly recommend getting a new vacuum harness (vented version only ) and that's only another $15. Last time I checked I remember Dal Offers a warranty on optis you buy from him. I'd have to double check but I thought it was 2yrs.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Much like LT1 heads developements from the aftermarket were slow BECAUSE THE STOCK PARTS ARE GOOD.

They can always count on you sheep to buy anything they SAY is better though remeber Granatelli and Hypertech SAY their products are good but even most of you sheep have learned better AFTER these things were in public hands and not performing.

The cap and rotor just started shipping a few weeks ago a YEAR after they were "released" The whole unit is projected to be at least 6 months out due to the 3 month backlog on cap and rotor orders, bet it is next fall before these actually hit the street in any number and AFTER that you can evaluate what results people are getting and begin to think about wether it MIGHT be better than the good stock piece.

I am not saying the cap and rotor or whole distributor are bad, just that the stock parts are many times better than given credit for and it is friggin STUPID and a grand display of what is wrong with todays society the way you people talk up how wonderful things are before anyone independant has tested them based solely on the companies advertizing.
Accell is also slated to release an opti at a lower price and really if you are convinced the opti is so bad why not use one of the multi coil systems which only retains the very low wear optical part of the opti.
This stuff is the aftermarket capitolizing on the ignorancethat drives the "opti is bad" mentality, in doing so they might have created something stronger BUT we don't know that till guys are putting lots of miles on them.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I will agree that the opti probably gets more grief than it deserves, but given the proven failure rate it has had I would not agree that it is a top quality piece.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Main reason LT1 R&D slowed down a lot is because of the LS1 not because the parts were great from the factory.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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opti's blow! they are **** and DO NOT hold up in a performance oriented application! I have gone through enough of them in the past year to know!
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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96capricemgr,
I'm with Taner. I don't know how many high performance LT1's you have dealt with, but when you really start making power with these motors, YOU ALWAYS run into problems with the opti's when turning more than stock RPM's. This is a fact. Sheep this and sheep that, yeah, maybe the vast majority of people on here buy parts that they don't need or even fully understand, but the LT1 opti IS NOT a good design...a good idea-yes, but not a good design.

I have the stock PCM and shift at 6,800-7,000 and am sick and tired of trying to make NEW GM Opti's work on these cars. I also have an MSD ignition, MSD coil, new wires, etc. The stock unit just isn't designed to do what I need it to do and what some others need it to do. My 3rd opti currently, all GM parts, all brand new, all vented, all installed by one of the larger LT1/LS1 performance shops, and all have intermittent and/or constant misses at or above 6,500rpm with a high compression and high cylinder pressure motor N/A.

There's my real world experience, where's yours?
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by taner
opti's blow! they are **** and DO NOT hold up in a performance oriented application! I have gone through enough of them in the past year to know!
what is failing? just wondering if msd address the problem.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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looks nice but i don't much faith in MSD OPTI-Spark technology. they were suppose to release the cap and rotor kit in April. they keep puching it back by a month every month. i spoke to a guy at summit and said that MSD has only promised him 4 and they have been spoken for month ago. how long will take them to come out with this? 2 years instead of 1 after they start advertising it? someone else have been making a billet OPTI-Crap replacement already and it has been out for a year or more.

http://www.dynotech-eng.com/dynaspark.htm
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Crap or no, tested or not, stock opti good or not, everyone makes valid points. To each his own. Peterbilt might make the best f*cking rig on the road but I just don't need one to drive to the grocery store. Regardless, it's pretty and I really like the timing adjustment.
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