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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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I know people usually prefer long tube headers, but do shorty headers give your car a louder tone or better sound?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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i have shortys and yes they give a louder sound. as for better sound that all personal opinion.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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I have shorties too and with my cam it sounds SICK. my buddy has LTs and it sounds WAY to raspy. The shorties give it a low deep rumble. Kinda like a harly times 10
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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IC, yeah, I dont really like how long tubes sound.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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By the way, does the spark plug clearance improve any?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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depends on what you go with, but yeah a little. the bbks that i put on on the drivers side all the primaries go up and back like the stock manifold so clearence is great on that side, on the passenger side there was a bit of improvement but not a whole hell of alot.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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i have shorty's .. their just not on yet haha. i'd like to know what everybody elses car sounds like with shorty headers on them
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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i love my shorty's
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since where on header sounds... could anyone tell me what mids sound like.. i guess some where in the middle huh... some feed back would be nice though... i was offered some mac mids for $100.. good or bad deal?

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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since where on header sounds... could anyone tell me what mids sound like.. i guess some where in the middle huh... some feed back would be nice though... i was offered some mac mids for $100.. good or bad deal?
if they are in good working order ,great deal and i have mids highflow cat and slp lm and everyone always tells me my car sounds amazing from ricers to mustangs and of course f-bod owners.the mid and cat made a huge difference inthe sound of my car
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I had a set of Pacesetter shorties, and I blew the collectors off of them, literally. They rusted through, and I don't run that hot. I still have my factory cat in, so it has alot of base. I am putting in Hooker Super Comp LT's with 3" collectors, and a 3" Y pipe into the Catback I currently have.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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What about power?? Is there a big Difference between LT's and Shortys?
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Shorties are a nice gain when they are put on inplace of the manifolds. From what I have heard, LT's are about 10hp over the shorties.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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What about mid lengths?? im guessing its in between?
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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LT's give you alot more power than both.

From low to top, LT's rule.

Shorties are good for high revving engines, and mids are great for DD's who need to pass inspections but want some good power.

Coated LT's rule all.
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Anyone with LT's, what was the gain?
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LT's will make more power everytime, they're good for about 25 hp over stock manifolds. Shortys are good for about 15.

If you have to use shortys for emissions reasons, then they're definetly worth the dough. I myself am looking into them for my next mod.
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actually you can go with mids and still pass inspection.

http://www.lt1engine.com/soundlib/index.html

sort by how you want and take your pick on which one you like.
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:28 AM
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here is a vid with decent sound quality of my LT1 w/ pacesetter shorties, open y-pipe.
http://amarilloracers.vidiac.com/vid...91D8AF8200.htm
car launches like a turtle but it makes a ton of noise going down the 1320.
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The only thing Im worried about with the LT's is the ground clearance? How close are they to the ground from stock height? 95 TA
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