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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Will have the 4.10s installed within a week or so. Should I flip for some LTs and ORY next or a Stall?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Tough call. Personally I'd do LTs/ORY, because then you'll get better sound out of it too and save up for the stall. And without good drag radials, a stall won't gain you as much on the track as it would with a good tire.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by urbanhunter44
Tough call. Personally I'd do LTs/ORY, because then you'll get better sound out of it too and save up for the stall. And without good drag radials, a stall won't gain you as much on the track as it would with a good tire.
I am leaning toward the LTs/ORY ... Think Im gonna need to ____ Mouth it? Everyone seems to think after ORY its nuts and u need to Borlamouth, Magnamouth, or Dynomouth the thing. I like loud though. We'll see I guess.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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well since i have been in your situation i say go with the long tubes.... u can get the stall but u may not feel the power gain..... trust me u either want a Yank or a Vig and those are about $800 prices. Long tubes are cheaper but remember they wont make your car louder they will quiet it down a little bit because the exhasut tone has a longer distance to travel and quiet out.... Best bang for buck in my opinion are the long tubes since the stock manifolds suck and restrict a lot of power. Happy hunting....
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Originally Posted by 1SLO6
well since i have been in your situation i say go with the long tubes.... u can get the stall but u may not feel the power gain..... trust me u either want a Yank or a Vig and those are about $800 prices. Long tubes are cheaper but remember they wont make your car louder they will quiet it down a little bit because the exhasut tone has a longer distance to travel and quiet out.... Best bang for buck in my opinion are the long tubes since the stock manifolds suck and restrict a lot of power. Happy hunting....
WHAT every time i hear a fbody with long tubes it sounds wey louder and better tone
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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lt's and ory, mine with a cat and flowmaster netted me a .6 deduction off my et with **** track prep and 95% humidity with a 9x* track temp
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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lt's and ory, mine with a cat and flowmaster netted me a .6 deduction off my et with **** track prep and 95% humidity with a 9x* track temp
SOLD!!
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 03:45 AM
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oh yeah forgot to mention, that was on my stock suspension before all my new spohn toys lol
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Originally Posted by 1SLO6
u can get the stall but u may not feel the power gain
That makes no sense. A stall does not give you any power gain, but you will definitely feel a big difference.

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Long tubes are cheaper but remember they wont make your car louder they will quiet it down a little bit because the exhasut tone has a longer distance to travel and quiet out
What??! That is quite possibly the funniest thing I have read in this section in a while.

Put a car with longtubes next to one with stock exhaust and see which is louder.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:08 AM
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That makes no sense. A stall does not give you any power gain, but you will definitely feel a big difference.


What??! That is quite possibly the funniest thing I have read in this section in a while.

Put a car with longtubes next to one with stock exhaust and see which is louder.
i agree man, mine woke the hell up real fast wil the long tubes and a stall will make that 60' time drop and believe me you can feel the difference in a stalled versus non stalled car
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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A torque converter will shave more time off of your E/T. It's your call, would you rather have a quicker car, or make your car sound like it's quicker than it really is?
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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I would go the long tube route first. You may shave 1/10's off on your ET's with a stall, but you will do this with a longtube set up as well. Average ET gain with a good stall and GOOD tires is about .4 to .6 off you ET's. Average gain with a longtube set up is .4 to .6 off of your ET.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Both I went stall and then LTs, stall picks up like crazy on stock manifolds but is even more fun with Long Tubes.
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who said that u get a power with a stall.....???? I am speaking in terms of power gain big difference. a stall can definetalty shift your powerband around and with a stock internal car u wont feel a big difference.... In terms of long tubes it will wake up the car since the manifolds are proven to be very restrictive. Ask anyone here who went to long tube and see if there is a difference.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SLO6
a stall can definetalty shift your powerband around and with a stock internal car u wont feel a big difference
I'm sorry but that's just plain wrong.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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thats wrong... so if u put a 4400 stall on a stock internal car your are telling me that the car wont feel like a dog off a dead stop and regular driving????
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SLO6
thats wrong... so if u put a 4400 stall on a stock internal car your are telling me that the car wont feel like a dog off a dead stop and regular driving????
I didn't say you couldn't pick the wrong stall. A 4400 would be too large for the stock cam, but you would still feel a big difference.

Any stall substantially bigger than the stock one you will feel the difference, and most likely have a better 60' with traction.

You would need larger gears though with that large of a stall.

A proper stall for a stock internal car and yes, you will feel a huge difference.
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Im not gonna say any names but some people just shouldnt respond if they dont have a clue. I dont care how little or how much HP you make, the RIGHT stall on ANY car you will ALWAYS feel a difference...and there is no way in hell long tubes can make a car "softer" note. Wow. Im going to do both anyway. Was just curious witch one people thought would be smart first.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Stall without a doubt. Get a Yank 3500 and really move.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Have brands like B&M and TCI proven to not be as tough as yank or fuddle etc? Can get those for around $400 thats why I ask.
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