View Poll Results: Delteq vs. MSD Opti
Delteq Opti-Direct system
16
57.14%
MSD Opti
12
42.86%
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Delteq vs Opti
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depends on what your doing i heard there were some problems with it on big cam lt1's, i dont know if that's been remedied or not yet, i was looking into doing the deltec but didnt because of the cam issues, sure some guys on here will speak up, if my stock original opti/cap and rotor was fine for 150k miles then it works for me, cap and rotor finally let go but i went ahead and got a new gm opti and a msd cap and rotor been fine ever since i did it in march
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My Dynaspark was stolen out of my car while it was in the shop Anyways remember, if your opti is bad right now youll have to replace it anyways depending on what went wrong with it and if it's the usuall youll be buying a opti and a delteq if you choose to go that route. IMHO, My first choice still has to be Dynaspark. They are test proven which is the biggest plus. The biggest downside is the price. I'm just dont care much for the LTCC and the Delteq for the simple fact the opti still has to be there. I guess it's a all or nothing thing for me. Also I dont see anything wrong with using a stock Opti either as long as it's not one of those rebuilt ones people say last for 7k miles.
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
My first choice still has to be Dynaspark. They are test proven which is the biggest plus. The biggest downside is the price.
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I believe in the "you get what you pay for" saying to a certain degree. You have to be competitive. When they had the only replacable opti they had a corner in the market. Now they must adapt with the times and be competative against the MSD which is the closest comparism. I dont mind spending money to have the best but just because you spend alot of money doesnt mean you got the best. Eitherway I may get another Dynaspark soon when I cool down and get over the fact my investment is gone.
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
I believe in the "you get what you pay for" saying to a certain degree. You have to be competitive. When they had the only replacable opti they had a corner in the market. Now they must adapt with the times and be competative against the MSD which is the closest comparism. I dont mind spending money to have the best but just because you spend alot of money doesnt mean you got the best. Eitherway I may get another Dynaspark soon when I cool down and get over the fact my investment is gone.
It would be very unlikely that DynaSpark would come down in price because of MSD's entry in the LT1 Opti-Spark YEARS after they pioneered the design.
For example, in the beginning there were only a few companies that offered headers for the LT1/LS1 f-bodies. Now... everyone and their uncle is making them. Would I put a set of Pacesetters on my car. No freakin' way. Dynatech or Kooks headers all the way. The quality far exceeds the Pacesetters. But that's just me... I would like to have "nice stuff" that works well instead of "ok stuff" that works good or almost as good.
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Originally Posted by NoMoreLS1
That's why I said, "I am a firm believer in that "you get what you pay for." Needless to say, nobody wants to get ripped off..."
It would be very unlikely that DynaSpark would come down in price because of MSD's entry in the LT1 Opti-Spark YEARS after they pioneered the design.
For example, in the beginning there were only a few companies that offered headers for the LT1/LS1 f-bodies. Now... everyone and their uncle is making them. Would I put a set of Pacesetters on my car. No freakin' way. Dynatech or Kooks headers all the way. The quality far exceeds the Pacesetters. But that's just me... I would like to have "nice stuff" that works well instead of "ok stuff" that works good or almost as good.
It would be very unlikely that DynaSpark would come down in price because of MSD's entry in the LT1 Opti-Spark YEARS after they pioneered the design.
For example, in the beginning there were only a few companies that offered headers for the LT1/LS1 f-bodies. Now... everyone and their uncle is making them. Would I put a set of Pacesetters on my car. No freakin' way. Dynatech or Kooks headers all the way. The quality far exceeds the Pacesetters. But that's just me... I would like to have "nice stuff" that works well instead of "ok stuff" that works good or almost as good.
The headers analogy is skewed imho. The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material. What makes one nice to you may mean squat to someone like me who could care less for the fancy stuff as long as it gets the job done. If I run the same times as you using cheaper parts who really wins? Whoever is happy with thier performance and thier setup, thats who
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
First of all I respect your opinion and I see your point but lets be serious. Dynaspark will either conform thier price to be competitive or slowlly go out of business if MSD turns out to be the real deal. It's as simple as that. I'm not saying they should be priced the same though dont get it twisted.
The headers analogy is skewed imho. The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material. What makes one nice to you may mean squat to someone like me who could care less for the fancy stuff as long as it gets the job done. If I run the same times as you using cheaper parts who really wins? Whoever is happy with thier performance and thier setup, thats who
The headers analogy is skewed imho. The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material. What makes one nice to you may mean squat to someone like me who could care less for the fancy stuff as long as it gets the job done. If I run the same times as you using cheaper parts who really wins? Whoever is happy with thier performance and thier setup, thats who
There is dynaspark and theres <b>MSD</b>
Everyone knows MSD. pro race cars use msd
People who don't know **** about cars probably know msd
The name will sell itself
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I would not waste my time on that other crap again. Put good Opti on it and change the cap and rotor every year if you are racing.
I went 10.32 on one the weeked and after being raped over the delteq coles and coming up short!
Long live the Opti!
I went 10.32 on one the weeked and after being raped over the delteq coles and coming up short!
Long live the Opti!
#17
Originally Posted by Cchris1109
i like my pacesetters, no problems yet, would i even get as much hp or more if i switched to kooks??? i wouldnt believe so
7000 mile Pacesetters.
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
First of all I respect your opinion and I see your point but lets be serious. Dynaspark will either conform thier price to be competitive or slowlly go out of business if MSD turns out to be the real deal. It's as simple as that. I'm not saying they should be priced the same though dont get it twisted.
The headers analogy is skewed imho. The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material. What makes one nice to you may mean squat to someone like me who could care less for the fancy stuff as long as it gets the job done. If I run the same times as you using cheaper parts who really wins? Whoever is happy with thier performance and thier setup, thats who
The headers analogy is skewed imho. The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material. What makes one nice to you may mean squat to someone like me who could care less for the fancy stuff as long as it gets the job done. If I run the same times as you using cheaper parts who really wins? Whoever is happy with thier performance and thier setup, thats who
Skewed? Yeah... ok.
Only difference? "The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material." That seems like a lot of differences to me. You forgot another difference... quality. For some people, that is important.
I am sure that MSD's opti-spark is a fine product. I have MSD parts on my cars and I like them a lot. I have used inferior parts in the past and have found that while the MSD parts are more expensive, they are worth the added expense. But in this case being that the MSD opti-spark is less costly ($100), it will not cause DynaSpark to lower their price or even go out of business as I stated before.
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Originally Posted by NoMoreLS1
The DynaSpark is only $100 cheaper. Not that big of a deal. Save $100 for something that has not stood the test of time. I hope the MSD opti-spark does work... hell it took them long enough to "release" it. But being $100 cheaper will not "force" DynaSpark to lower their price or even go out of business if they don't. Has Dynatech or Kooks gone out of business because of Pacesetter? Uh no.
Skewed? Yeah... ok.
Only difference? "The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material." That seems like a lot of differences to me. You forgot another difference... quality. For some people, that is important.
I am sure that MSD's opti-spark is a fine product. I have MSD parts on my cars and I like them a lot. I have used inferior parts in the past and have found that while the MSD parts are more expensive, they are worth the added expense. But in this case being that the MSD opti-spark is less costly ($100), it will not cause DynaSpark to lower their price or even go out of business as I stated before.
Skewed? Yeah... ok.
Only difference? "The only difference between headers are the size, fitment, plug access, coating and material." That seems like a lot of differences to me. You forgot another difference... quality. For some people, that is important.
I am sure that MSD's opti-spark is a fine product. I have MSD parts on my cars and I like them a lot. I have used inferior parts in the past and have found that while the MSD parts are more expensive, they are worth the added expense. But in this case being that the MSD opti-spark is less costly ($100), it will not cause DynaSpark to lower their price or even go out of business as I stated before.
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
Why do you keep saying $100? Do you think that sounds better? Try it's almost $160 plus more. Youre comparing apples to oranges when you put Kooks and Dynaspark in the same sentence. Lets stay on one subject because youre mixing the two to make your dynaspark argument stronger. Really shouldnt even be a argument. A person is only going to pay what theyre willing to pay.
Summit Racing MSD Opti-Spark
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Apples and oranges? Well... one product is a distributor and one is a header system. But the POINT is that you pay for quality. I am not trying to argue anything... just trying to make a point. Like I said, I like the MSD products and I think that they are top notch. I posted in this thread because the DynaSpark was not an option in this poll as it should be since it has been proven over the years. I'd rather have the piece of mind knowing that my distributor isn't going to fail on me. The last thing that I would want to do is replace an opti-spark after everything is installed on my engine. $100 isn't work my time, effort, and even more money when I have to replace the defective opti-spark with a new one. Personally... I would not want to put a part on my car that hasn't been proven. Once the MSD opti-spark is proven, then it's all good. For example, if the MSD opti-spark came out years ago and was proven to work well just like the DynaSpark, naturally I would have purchased the MSD Opti-Spark and saved myself $100. Who wouldn't?
I'm done.