I had a blast at the shootout,We took 1st place in the top-gun class. the worst part was the 23hr tow for me, But was worth it for the win, there were alot of nice cars out there, my car was way off, was down on power and 60', track wasnt all that, but i guess thats what happens when it rains for a few hrs right before we start racing, were gonna tear the motor down and freshin it up put a cog belt set-up on and turn on the power for the next event, we want to have the car in the 8's by the end of the year <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ April 09, 2003, 10:55 PM: Message edited by: ROBS SS ]</small>

 

Way to go,man ..congrats <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

 

Great to hear Rob <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Its cool to see the LT1 rockin!

What was your best time/mph of the day? I know alot of cars were off pace due to the weather.

Jason

 

Congrats Rob! Man...I would have gone but I figured the rains were going to cancel the show so I just stayed home (Only a few hours drive for me). Looks like I missed out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JasonShort:
<strong> Great to hear Rob <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Its cool to see the LT1 rockin!

What was your best time/mph of the day? I know alot of cars were off pace due to the weather.

Jason </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">car only ran a 9.66 @140 mph, the best 60' i saw was a 1.45, wich is .15 off what it runs back home <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

Way to represent the LT1 crowd! Congrats <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ROBS SS:
<strong>
car only ran a 9.66 @140 mph</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Only, only?????? Thats still friggin awesome! <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> And they say 93 wasn't a good year

 

Great job man. Looks like LT1s have taken top honors at the tunder shootout and the spring breat shoot out. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

We need to keep the trend going guys. Just think what we could do with 15 deg. heads
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

 

Any track is only as good as its prep and I have yet to hear anyone run decent at RCR.

 

First off, very impressive times out of the LT1's. Now that I'm an LS1 guy I never go to the LT1 section. But lot's of respect here.

Anyway, I E-mailed this to ROBS SS already but I figured I would post it as well and see if I can get a few more educated opinions. I am in a debate with a Mustang guy about the cost of building an LT1 to a 302 Ford. He says that it would be cheaper to build a 302 Mustang into the low 10's than an LT1 F-body. He also said that the 4 bolt LT1's are weak and that a friend of his broke his mains. I've got a friend with a 94 Vette all N/A that runs 11.9's @ 117 on a stock bottom end with over 30K on the build up. It's just now starting to burn a little oil. Anyway, here's a few quotes from him.

"I have yet to run into any LT1 owner who has only spent 10K to get into the
low 10's."

"Regardless you cannot build a LT1 car to handle low 10's for 10K whereas you can on a 302 car where the rotating assy. is forged in which A. would be faster than your supposed H/C/I/E LT1 car on a shot and B. would be much more reliable than your H/C/I/E on a shot w/ the LT1 rotating assy. being stock I challenge you to find one where you can."

"you have only provided a link to where you say it's impossible to build a Ford motor yet have supplied nothing to back up where a LT1 car can be built for 10K to handle low 10's."

Sorry for the long post but this guy is really down on the LT1's. I am an LS1 guy now but I have owned an LT1 and 2 5.0's and honestly, I think the LT1's can be made faster and for less money than either of the other two. I would appreciate any and all feedback you guys can add to this.

Thanks. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

 

If your talking about just motor I have about 3500 in my motor intake to heads. Add in all the bolt ons/suspension outside the motor I have about 5500. Throw in the rear end I have about 7700. Add in tires/rims for another 1000. I've run a best of 11.0 at 124 and since the car is alittle lighter now and hooks harder should be able to sneak into the 10s NA. So I'm just a TNT Kit from easy low 10s. Onething your friend is forgetting is that the LX and notch mustangs are very light ...so they don't fight the weight problems we have. I love how they all say how easy it is to get the 5.0s into low 10s but I've yet to see many there without way more than 10 grand in it.

I also know there is a guy with a 355 buildup(rods pistons just like mine) running a stock crank in an auto car on the jug that has gone 9.5s. I forget his name but he is from the bowling green KY. area.

Oh..I also have stock crank and 2 bolt mains ...just good bolts in those mains.

<small>[ April 12, 2003, 09:33 AM: Message edited by: 95 Formula ]</small>

 

95 Formula-
Cool, thanks for the info. You've essentially done a 10 second buildup for about $8200 (~$500 for a good shot of N20?) on 2 bolt mains. This is right in the ballpark of my argument. I am doubting that even with the extra $1800 he could get a 302 into the low 10's. Actually, I did tell him that with enough nitrous, it WOULD run low 10's.... for about 2 or 3 runs. But again it was all about how the 302 would last and the LT1 wouldn't. And how the LT1 would cost more to build. And how the mains in an LT1 (Yes, even the Vette's 4 bolt) are weak and wouldn't last.

He posted this on a Mustang board (with the usual Chevy name calling, etc.) and they all gave him turbo buildups and nitrous fed strokers. One guy even told him that if he stays with fuel injection it would be wayyyy over $10K. Anyway, thanks again for the info. Hope you don't mind if I quote you or link to this thread. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

<small>[ April 12, 2003, 11:16 AM: Message edited by: BullSSeye ]</small>

 

Congrats Rob, thats MOVIN'!!!

 

Congrats <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

 

LT1, LT1, LT1.......I LOVE OUR LT1s, I dont know why they ditched them to go to LS1.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Gangly:
<strong> Congrats Rob, thats MOVIN'!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks guys, hopfully the cog set-up works out and we will see a 8-sec LT1! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

Congrats Rob, nice to see your mph increase!

 

Congrats on the win Rob! I wish my car didn't start acting up. Finally figured out that the converter was too loose. When we went to spray it it would hit the 9K RPM Rev limiter. I was hoping to make a fast pass but the car didn't want to <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Also I was running out of gear every pass. I'm moving to a 29.5" tire now. I hope that does the trick. I managed a 1.38 60' out there that day. LT1's did dominate that day for sure. I laid down a 9.602 @ 144 mph in qualifying <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> The sad thing was the track had a first gen camaro out there for an exhibition pass and it wasn't even as quick as us <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />