450 hp possible with this set up
#1
450 hp possible with this set up
Does 450 hp seem possible for this set up, or is smoke being blown up my ***?
Look like a good deal btw?
1995 PONTIAC TRANS AM (450HP)
asking $13,900.00
only 26,000 original miles
MODIFICATIONS:
Engine: LT-4 Hot Cam (218/228, .525/.525 112 LSA)
GTP LT-4 STAGE II Aluminum Heads
LT-4 Valve Springs
Crane Gold 1.6 Roller Rockers
Comp “R” Roller Lifters
LPE Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
SVO 30# Injectors
LT-4 Timing Chain
LT-4 Intake
Holley Full Hand Polished 58 MM Throttle Body
Hand Polished MAF Sensor
Port and Polished Heads and Intake
Transmission: A4- Finish Line Performance Level 4
Precision Industries 3600 Stall (Lock-up)
Trans Go shift Kit
Heavy Duty Tranny Cooler
Exhaust: AS&M Coated Headers
B&B Tri-flow Cat Back
FLP Cut-out with McCord Electric cut-out
Ignition: MSD 6A Box
MSD Blaster Coil
Taylor 8.5MM Wires
Rear End: 10-Bolt with Racing Carrier, Inner and outer Pinipn Bearings
G2 Aluminum Girdle
GM Motive 373 Gears (NO WHINE!)
Drive shaft: Aluminum DS-1LE with Spohn Drive shaft Loop
Brakes: 2003 Z06 13” with GM Performance pads, rear stock
Suspension: G2 Sway Bars 32.5mm Front, Rear 21.5mm
MAC Lowering Springs
Bilstein HD Shocks
BMR Torque Arm
BMR LCA Relocation Brackets
Granatelli Lower Control Arm
BMR Adjustable Chromemoly Panhard Rod
BMR Sub Frame Connectors
Fuel: Racetronic’s Fuel System with up-graded Fuel Pump
Interior Mods: Autometer Sport Comp EGT and Trans Temp Gauge in Dash
Appearance Mods: Suncoast Creations Ram Air Hood w, Functional Airbox
35% Tint windows
Wheels and Tires: Brand New 17X9.5 ft. and 17x11 rear American Racing Torque Thrust II’s
Brand New Sumitomo 275-40-17 front and 315-35-17 rear
CAR HAS FULL DYNO SHEETS AVAILABLE WITH DYNO PULLS ON VIDEO!
Look like a good deal btw?
1995 PONTIAC TRANS AM (450HP)
asking $13,900.00
only 26,000 original miles
MODIFICATIONS:
Engine: LT-4 Hot Cam (218/228, .525/.525 112 LSA)
GTP LT-4 STAGE II Aluminum Heads
LT-4 Valve Springs
Crane Gold 1.6 Roller Rockers
Comp “R” Roller Lifters
LPE Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
SVO 30# Injectors
LT-4 Timing Chain
LT-4 Intake
Holley Full Hand Polished 58 MM Throttle Body
Hand Polished MAF Sensor
Port and Polished Heads and Intake
Transmission: A4- Finish Line Performance Level 4
Precision Industries 3600 Stall (Lock-up)
Trans Go shift Kit
Heavy Duty Tranny Cooler
Exhaust: AS&M Coated Headers
B&B Tri-flow Cat Back
FLP Cut-out with McCord Electric cut-out
Ignition: MSD 6A Box
MSD Blaster Coil
Taylor 8.5MM Wires
Rear End: 10-Bolt with Racing Carrier, Inner and outer Pinipn Bearings
G2 Aluminum Girdle
GM Motive 373 Gears (NO WHINE!)
Drive shaft: Aluminum DS-1LE with Spohn Drive shaft Loop
Brakes: 2003 Z06 13” with GM Performance pads, rear stock
Suspension: G2 Sway Bars 32.5mm Front, Rear 21.5mm
MAC Lowering Springs
Bilstein HD Shocks
BMR Torque Arm
BMR LCA Relocation Brackets
Granatelli Lower Control Arm
BMR Adjustable Chromemoly Panhard Rod
BMR Sub Frame Connectors
Fuel: Racetronic’s Fuel System with up-graded Fuel Pump
Interior Mods: Autometer Sport Comp EGT and Trans Temp Gauge in Dash
Appearance Mods: Suncoast Creations Ram Air Hood w, Functional Airbox
35% Tint windows
Wheels and Tires: Brand New 17X9.5 ft. and 17x11 rear American Racing Torque Thrust II’s
Brand New Sumitomo 275-40-17 front and 315-35-17 rear
CAR HAS FULL DYNO SHEETS AVAILABLE WITH DYNO PULLS ON VIDEO!
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#10
AS&M = Arizona Speed & Marine... As far as I know they only make Long Tube headers for Lt1 F-body's. But you might want to check and see if they make any others now.
As far as price, IMHO 14K is alot of money for a car, even IF it does have 450 engine HP...
I got 450 to the wheels outta my stock motor with full exhaust and a Procharger. I spent way less than 14K buying the car, parts, and tuning as well.
As far as price, IMHO 14K is alot of money for a car, even IF it does have 450 engine HP...
I got 450 to the wheels outta my stock motor with full exhaust and a Procharger. I spent way less than 14K buying the car, parts, and tuning as well.
#12
I just bought a 97 TA from Platniumta on this board. Car has lloyd elliot pnp heads, intake and tb, lt4 hotcam, descreened and ported maf, gold crane 1.6 rockers, upgraded springs, and pushrods, hooker lt, custom ypipe, hooker catback, no cats, spec stage 4, underdrive pulley, msd6a, k&n cai. I think that sums it up anyway he has a dyno sheet he is sending me 375 at the wheels and 450 with a 75 wet shot of nos.
#13
With that setup my guess is 425 or so at the crank, 325-350 at best at the wheels.
edit: I thought AS&M only made midlength headers for f-bodys? And yes like other people said not near enough cam.
edit:
Originally Posted by Fire67
AS&M = Arizona Speed & Marine... As far as I know they only make Long Tube headers for Lt1 F-body's. But you might want to check and see if they make any others now.
Last edited by lt197formula; 10-19-2006 at 04:10 PM.
#15
Like almost all advertisers, he is probably using crank hp. That combo would be very close to 450 at the flywheel, but for him to advertise it as such without any dyno time or actual #s is kind of lame. He should list the mods and put "Estimated 450hp" at least.
#17
With all that stuff and STOCK heads, that car would make about 325-330rwhp.
With those ported LT4 heads? I say 365rwhp.
When selling a car and mentioning HP numbers, people will always quote the higher "at the motor" numbers. Chevrolet didn't market the new 1993 Z28 as having a new 240rwhp LT1 engine did they?
That T/A is closer to a 425-430hp car. Sounds like a damn nice car to me, lots of choice parts. I would pay 12500 for it, no more.
As far as the comment " you could get an LS1 for that price..."
Not everyone wants an LS1 dude, I sure as hell don't.
With those ported LT4 heads? I say 365rwhp.
When selling a car and mentioning HP numbers, people will always quote the higher "at the motor" numbers. Chevrolet didn't market the new 1993 Z28 as having a new 240rwhp LT1 engine did they?
That T/A is closer to a 425-430hp car. Sounds like a damn nice car to me, lots of choice parts. I would pay 12500 for it, no more.
As far as the comment " you could get an LS1 for that price..."
Not everyone wants an LS1 dude, I sure as hell don't.
#18
Originally Posted by azvforce
As far as the comment " you could get an LS1 for that price..."
Not everyone wants an LS1 dude, I sure as hell don't.
Not everyone wants an LS1 dude, I sure as hell don't.
Im still driving old, outdated technology too.
Tony.