Anyone running Mikronite gears in their 10 bolt?
11-14-2006, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Makaveli
so once the ring and pinion are replaced, are there any other major problem areas of the 10 bolt? i mean will the posi carrier and the axles survive that kind of power too? i know they are weak rears, but i always heard that it was the size of the 7.5" ring gear that was the main problem here. i dont know much about them otherwise.
an aluminum rear cover with preload studs will help out tremendously.
11-14-2006, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ToxicTA
Are you running Auto or Stick and Street Radial or Drag Radial and what brand of tire. Also do you have some video so we can see how the car is being launched and run through the gears.
12-11-2006, 01:23 PM
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With the mikronite coating, are the gears usually more noisy?
I had mine installed last week, the installer did everything properly, and I broke them in according to Richmonds instructions, but they seem really whiney, esp. around 2k rpms.
I've never had a gear swap done in any of my cars til now, so this might be a normal level of sound for all I know, but it seems to be noticible.
They looked great BTW, I will try to get the pics uploaded tommarow.
I had mine installed last week, the installer did everything properly, and I broke them in according to Richmonds instructions, but they seem really whiney, esp. around 2k rpms.
I've never had a gear swap done in any of my cars til now, so this might be a normal level of sound for all I know, but it seems to be noticible.
They looked great BTW, I will try to get the pics uploaded tommarow.
12-11-2006, 05:36 PM
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taken from another thread.
Originally Posted by Mark Campbell
The Mikronite process is a surface finishing process that strengthens the outer surface of the material like shot peening but provides a "high-luster" super smooth finish that reduces friction and noise. IT IS NOT A COATING!!! It adds strength in the outer .010 - .014" of the material (verified by x-ray diffraction). Strength in the outer skin of the material is like the strength in a monocoque chassis or an airplane fuselage.
If we processed a used gear set we would make those wear ridges very hard and they would become like hard file teeth and would destroy the rear end. We only want our customers to have success not "self destruct"!
This process has many unique capabilities and that is why it is being used on military applications, many different racing applications (there really are some speed secrets...at least for a little while!), industrial (one company has reduced the number of gun drill bits from 7000/yr to 700/yr), medical, aerospace and others. It is significantly different from REM. Not that REM is bad, but REM does not impart residual compressive stresses in the surface and near surface substrate. Those residual stresses are what strengthen the material. That is what you get in shot peening, but shot peening looks nasty compared to Mikronite. Hope this clears things up a little. If not, come to my seminar at the PRI Show in Orlando. It's Friday, Dec 15 at 9:00AM.
Mark Campbell
VP, Market and Product Development
Crane Cams Inc.
If we processed a used gear set we would make those wear ridges very hard and they would become like hard file teeth and would destroy the rear end. We only want our customers to have success not "self destruct"!
This process has many unique capabilities and that is why it is being used on military applications, many different racing applications (there really are some speed secrets...at least for a little while!), industrial (one company has reduced the number of gun drill bits from 7000/yr to 700/yr), medical, aerospace and others. It is significantly different from REM. Not that REM is bad, but REM does not impart residual compressive stresses in the surface and near surface substrate. Those residual stresses are what strengthen the material. That is what you get in shot peening, but shot peening looks nasty compared to Mikronite. Hope this clears things up a little. If not, come to my seminar at the PRI Show in Orlando. It's Friday, Dec 15 at 9:00AM.
Mark Campbell
VP, Market and Product Development
Crane Cams Inc.
12-11-2006, 07:11 PM
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Uhm thanks, I was just wondering that because this is the first gear swap I have ever done, if they make more noise with the mikronite, due to the fact that my mikronited gears make a decent amount of noise, even though they were properly installed.
For all I know 4.10's in a 10 bolt do make some whining noise.
So far I'm happy with them, and you hit them with spray and were running DR's, so once I get some longer wheel studs I might try my luck with some DR's.
For all I know 4.10's in a 10 bolt do make some whining noise.
So far I'm happy with them, and you hit them with spray and were running DR's, so once I get some longer wheel studs I might try my luck with some DR's.
12-11-2006, 07:24 PM
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you were refering the process as a coating.
when i did the first test for mikronite, through vinci, we used 4.10 gears. the unprocessed gears made way more noise than the mikronite processed gears. depending on what brand, and whether they are street cut or race cut gears, they will make more noise than others.
you near orlando?
when i did the first test for mikronite, through vinci, we used 4.10 gears. the unprocessed gears made way more noise than the mikronite processed gears. depending on what brand, and whether they are street cut or race cut gears, they will make more noise than others.
you near orlando?
Interesting thread though!
10-25-2008, 09:42 PM
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Mine are still holding together, I never ran a DR on them though.
Even though people say don't build a 10 bolt I already mikronited the gears and got the girdle cover, all that's left is a differential and axles, I think I'm going to go for it.
Wow almost two years indeed.
Even though people say don't build a 10 bolt I already mikronited the gears and got the girdle cover, all that's left is a differential and axles, I think I'm going to go for it.
Wow almost two years indeed.
10-25-2008, 09:46 PM
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^^ Yah, I don't know why but I really want to just stick with the 10 bolt. I'm even thinking about taking my torsen apart and having all the gears in there done, but IDK, I kinda want to put these in before I put the car up for the year.
