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Old 11-09-2006, 06:55 PM
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i agree with greg also. Or when a car company says ........."best power in its class"............. then 2 seconds later....... "in a class of its own".......... lmao. This world is full of scam artists!!!
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Originally Posted by GregWS6&z28
it's a claim. like the claim that the Tornado adds 20hp, right. The guy can say whatever he wants.
the guy can say whatever he wants. but the fact is, science supports his statements. much in the same way science supports the tornado intake thing. the tornado doesnt work because of other parts to the intake, not because of the product not doing its intended job. is it still a scam? yes. but it doesnt mean it cant work.

people have media blasted metal for years. its no secret smoother metal is stronger because the surface is more consistent. there is no coating here. its a media blasting technique that has a scientific backing to make it true.

im going to be putting 3.73s in my car before it runs so im going to get this done just to see the results. if i break it, im out 300 bucks. if it lasts, i just saved myself 2200 that can go to other more important things.
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Originally Posted by 1bdbrd
im going to be putting 3.73s in my car before it runs so im going to get this done just to see the results. if i break it, im out 300 bucks. if it lasts, i just saved myself 2200 that can go to other more important things.
Cool. I think I'm going to give this a try as well. We'll have to report back later and compare notes.
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Originally Posted by thesoundandthefury
Cool. I think I'm going to give this a try as well. We'll have to report back later and compare notes.
+1 I want more info on this.
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Originally Posted by BuBbABFP
+1 I want more info on this.
Here is more info on the process. I know for a fact it works, because we did the testing for Mikronite.
http://www.vincihighperformance.com/...IN%20PAGE.HTML
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Here are two more links to pricing and processed products.
http://www.vincihighperformance.com/...0PRODUCTS.HTML
http://www.vincihighperformance.com/...CE%20PAGE.HTML
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Nice, too bad my gears are going in in 2 days.
I guess I will have to hope I have the same results as Tabur's friend and the girdle keeps the rear end together.
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Originally Posted by Joe Vinci
Thanks for all that info Joe. I'm curious about the link you posted that lists the prices for "F-BODY 7.5" 3: SERIES CARRIER 1993 THRU 2002." What all is included in that price? All the parts inside the differential or....?

I didn't even think about a HP increase but since all the parts are smoother then the reduced frictional losses would explain that.
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I wonder what performance gain i could get out of my 12 bolt. If 14 rwhp was brought out in a 10 bolt and the parasitic loss on a 12 bolt is more then the 10. I would be interested to see what those numbers would be.
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Sounds like somthing that would Help DSM guys out alot of trans stuff?
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I can see getting some strength from this, the imperfections are going to be the weakest place, so are going to be the spot that breaks.

This treatment removes those, and puts the surface in a state of compression, making it alittle most resistant to shelling teeth.

I would love to see some more guys running this and what results they are getting.
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Originally Posted by thesoundandthefury
Thanks for all that info Joe. I'm curious about the link you posted that lists the prices for "F-BODY 7.5" 3: SERIES CARRIER 1993 THRU 2002."
3 series carrier is the 7.5" 10 bolt that came stock with a 3.23 (automatic) or 3.42 (manual) ratio and a 2 series carrier is 7.5" 10 bolt that came stock with a 2.73, which requires a thicker gear or a spacer. These are the prices for a mikronite processed ring & pinion. Joe.
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for those looking for some light reading, look at the car craft jan 2007 issue page 44.
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well, i'm not an employee of crane cams, vinci high performance, or mikronite. i am the one that supplied the car for the testing and did the gear swapping to two different gear set tests. this was in my 00 formula, the black car. my car, at that time, was 442 rwhp with the 200 (motor rated) n2o.

in the first test, there were two sets of 4.10 gears involved. the first set was stock. the second set was the mikronite processed gears. this was to compare for hp gains/losses, sound differences, and higher/lower temps. i don't have a copy of the unprocessed vs processed gear dyno, but if i remember correctly, there was about a 7 rwhp gain and 30* lower temps. also, the gear set was quieter with the process. i kept these gears in my car from may 2005 until about october 2005. going to the track and driving everyday. so, estimated 5000 miles and many 200 (motor rated) n2o runs. whe we pulled this set of hears out for the next round of testing, it still looking just like they did when we put them in.

then, in october, again through vinci high performance, we did another set of testing for mikronite. this time it was with 3.73 gears. here is the results form that testing as well. http://www.vincihighperformance.com...AIN%20PAGE.HTML
to really put the mikronite gears to the test, after i installed them, i went right out and did a 300 mile run. and did another 200 miles the next evening. and then, i went to the track the following evening. basically, i abused the living crap out of them. disregarded the whole break in procedure. still, came out like new.

all of these gears were on display at PRI in 2005 at the liberty transmissions booth.
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Originally Posted by mrr23
for those looking for some light reading, look at the car craft jan 2007 issue page 44.
Damn! beat me to it... I just read about this stuff in car craft 2 days ago. purdy cool. They tested it (ring & pinion) on a mustang in the article and said that they gained like 6hp. They also said that "muscle mustangs" and "fast fords" did similar testing but, I some how was unaware of those... hehe.. go figure...
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amazing how they got almost the same results as i did in my car.
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Now im curious as what this could do for a engine with all it's moving parts coated.
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so once the ring and pinion are replaced, are there any other major problem areas of the 10 bolt? i mean will the posi carrier and the axles survive that kind of power too? i know they are weak rears, but i always heard that it was the size of the 7.5" ring gear that was the main problem here. i dont know much about them otherwise.
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Are you running Auto or Stick and Street Radial or Drag Radial and what brand of tire. Also do you have some video so we can see how the car is being launched and run through the gears.




Originally Posted by mrr23
well, i'm not an employee of crane cams, vinci high performance, or mikronite. i am the one that supplied the car for the testing and did the gear swapping to two different gear set tests. this was in my 00 formula, the black car. my car, at that time, was 442 rwhp with the 200 (motor rated) n2o.

in the first test, there were two sets of 4.10 gears involved. the first set was stock. the second set was the mikronite processed gears. this was to compare for hp gains/losses, sound differences, and higher/lower temps. i don't have a copy of the unprocessed vs processed gear dyno, but if i remember correctly, there was about a 7 rwhp gain and 30* lower temps. also, the gear set was quieter with the process. i kept these gears in my car from may 2005 until about october 2005. going to the track and driving everyday. so, estimated 5000 miles and many 200 (motor rated) n2o runs. whe we pulled this set of hears out for the next round of testing, it still looking just like they did when we put them in.

then, in october, again through vinci high performance, we did another set of testing for mikronite. this time it was with 3.73 gears. here is the results form that testing as well. http://www.vincihighperformance.com...AIN%20PAGE.HTML
to really put the mikronite gears to the test, after i installed them, i went right out and did a 300 mile run. and did another 200 miles the next evening. and then, i went to the track the following evening. basically, i abused the living crap out of them. disregarded the whole break in procedure. still, came out like new.

all of these gears were on display at PRI in 2005 at the liberty transmissions booth.
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Any places in FL that do this?? I guess one week turn around time isn't much, but how much is it going to cost me to ship the gears out? Yeah.... It would be nice if I could get it done locally.


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