LS1 rear brake conversion help...
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LS1 rear brake conversion help... Getting ready to install LS1 rear brakes.
I have everything including the axle, but my question is regards to the rubber brake line.
After installing all hardware, will the LS1 rubber brake lines bolt right up and be the correct length?
I have everything including the axle, but my question is regards to the rubber brake line.
After installing all hardware, will the LS1 rubber brake lines bolt right up and be the correct length?
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So the existing LT1 hoses will work too. I noticed the LS1's are a tad longer so either way there should be no problem.
One more question.
I have a non traction control 95 Z28. The LS1 axles I have are the traction control kind with the reluctor wheel. I assume that these can be used on my car or would I need the non TC axles?
My thinking is it would not matter either way.
One more question.
I have a non traction control 95 Z28. The LS1 axles I have are the traction control kind with the reluctor wheel. I assume that these can be used on my car or would I need the non TC axles?
My thinking is it would not matter either way.
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I did the ls1 brake swap when I did my 9" swap as well...
ls1 calipers are mounted on the front side of the axle and lt1's are mounted on the rear, you WILL have to move the hard line around on the axle and get it moved toward the front. after that, the rubber hoses will work just fine.
the axles would matter IF you had TCS and got non-TCS axles (this would not work) but a non-TCS car with TCS (or 4-channel) axles will be fine, it's overkill- you'll never use the reluctor wheel, but it's still there.
I don't know if it was because my stock brakes were kinda jacked anyway, or what, but when I put the ls1 brakes on the rear, it seemed like the car would stop DRASTICALLY quicker..
and I haven't even put the front ones on yet!
ls1 calipers are mounted on the front side of the axle and lt1's are mounted on the rear, you WILL have to move the hard line around on the axle and get it moved toward the front. after that, the rubber hoses will work just fine.
the axles would matter IF you had TCS and got non-TCS axles (this would not work) but a non-TCS car with TCS (or 4-channel) axles will be fine, it's overkill- you'll never use the reluctor wheel, but it's still there.
I don't know if it was because my stock brakes were kinda jacked anyway, or what, but when I put the ls1 brakes on the rear, it seemed like the car would stop DRASTICALLY quicker..
and I haven't even put the front ones on yet!
I don't mean to hijack this thread....
I posted this on the brake section without an answer, you guys seem to know it.
What's the differance between rear LT1 F-body brakes and rear LS1 brakes?
I posted this on the brake section without an answer, you guys seem to know it.
What's the differance between rear LT1 F-body brakes and rear LS1 brakes?
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Mighty whitey,
Did you have to move the hard line to get your to work too?
Does this mean that the hard line will not be secured in a fixed mount like it is now in the rear, meaning just floating there?
Did you have to move the hard line to get your to work too?
Does this mean that the hard line will not be secured in a fixed mount like it is now in the rear, meaning just floating there?
Originally Posted by Paul Bell
I don't mean to hijack this thread....
I posted this on the brake section without an answer, you guys seem to know it.
What's the differance between rear LT1 F-body brakes and rear LS1 brakes?
I posted this on the brake section without an answer, you guys seem to know it.
What's the differance between rear LT1 F-body brakes and rear LS1 brakes?
The LS1 parking brake system uses a "mini drum" brake setup inside the brake rotor so when you pull the cable the pads push out against the inside of the rotor to hold the car still, while the LT1 uses the caliper piston to push out onto the existing brake pads to hold the car. My LT1 parking brake worked like crap reguardless on how many times i adjusted it or replaced the rear brake pads so i switched to the LS1 rear brake setup and love it's design and will never switch back again.
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My stock LT1 parking brake works work quite well. If the rotors are almost the same size, I won't go through the hassle. My brakes are working well, the car stops great and I have even dust on all the wheels. I'm using the slotted rotors from Stainless Steel Brakes and Raybestos Brute Stop pads. My brother was in the friction end of the parts business for many years and these are the pads to use. I've had better results with them than any other pad. I had a set of Pep Boys rotors on my Savanna van and the bearing bores slowly got bigger. The races were wobbling around in them and the wheels wobbled too. No more cheap brake parts for me.
I'm considering the four piston/13 inch rotor kit from Stainless Steel for the fronts.
Thanks guys.
I'm considering the four piston/13 inch rotor kit from Stainless Steel for the fronts.
Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
Back to the topic guys.
I need answers to the brake line problem, not hearing what a waste of time it is to do.
I need answers to the brake line problem, not hearing what a waste of time it is to do.
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Okay, I got my e-brake cable brackets out and saw the provision for the brake line. It was all very clear what to do at this point ans the lines with a little persuasion are not hooked up just like factory.
It is really amazing how dissimilar the LS1 and LT1 rear calipers really are. The LT1 has a smaller bore and piston and is terribly overly complex in design.
The LS1 caliper has the bigger bore and piston and is so simple in design it is really laughable.
The LS1 caliper is very much superior and I m willing to bet it is more of an upgrade than the nay sayers will admit.
It is really amazing how dissimilar the LS1 and LT1 rear calipers really are. The LT1 has a smaller bore and piston and is terribly overly complex in design.
The LS1 caliper has the bigger bore and piston and is so simple in design it is really laughable.
The LS1 caliper is very much superior and I m willing to bet it is more of an upgrade than the nay sayers will admit.
Originally Posted by wrd1972
The LS1 caliper is very much superior and I m willing to bet it is more of an upgrade than the nay sayers will admit.
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Originally Posted by NotACop97Z
Where did you get your kit? Ebay?
When it all comes out in the wash I will have the full rear upgrade for around $110 with new rotors which I needed anyway.
The other benefit will be the much better parking brake. My LT1 e-brake barely held even when properly adjusted. The damn thing is so tempormental. I have driven an LS1 and the improvement is 3X plust the brakes are much easier to service.
i noticed right off,the car NEVER had a problem with the Lt1 brakes infact
the worked very well so i figured it could only get better and it did!
100-60 mph was waaaay smoother,much less brake fade....BIGGER IS BETTER!
you noticed NO IMPROVEMENTS when you switched to Ls1 brakes????
i noticed right off,the car NEVER had a problem with the Lt1 brakes infact
the worked very well so i figured it could only get better and it did!
100-60 mph was waaaay smoother,much less brake fade....BIGGER IS BETTER!
i noticed right off,the car NEVER had a problem with the Lt1 brakes infact
the worked very well so i figured it could only get better and it did!
100-60 mph was waaaay smoother,much less brake fade....BIGGER IS BETTER!
With the rear brakes only!?
you noticed NO IMPROVEMENTS when you switched to Ls1 brakes????
i noticed right off,the car NEVER had a problem with the Lt1 brakes infact
the worked very well so i figured it could only get better and it did!
100-60 mph was waaaay smoother,much less brake fade....BIGGER IS BETTER!
i noticed right off,the car NEVER had a problem with the Lt1 brakes infact
the worked very well so i figured it could only get better and it did!
100-60 mph was waaaay smoother,much less brake fade....BIGGER IS BETTER!
I never went out to look for a 100-60 improvement or to see if brake fade got better. I was just happy with the fact my car wouldn't go rolling down a hill anymore.
So if you got that improvement thats great for you.